SIRIA, cea mai "fierbinte" zona de pe Terra!

Hai cu s300-le la bashar:)))

Arme chimice...care nu exista ?!

Culmea, concluziile vin tot de la mincinosii patologici U.N. si...U.S. !!!

LINK spre stire

Stirea nu spune ca nu au fost arme chimice in Irak, ba chiar din contra, au fost. Spun ca dupa ce au fost distruse, nu au mai gasit. Ceea ce e cu totul altceva.
Minciuna e in alta parte, dar nu la UN.

Oricum, aici discutam despre Siria, ia in Siria au fost deja documentat 27 de cazuri de utilizare a armelor chimice de catre Assad, deci lucrurile sunt mult mai simple si clare.

Edited by Cris007, 20 April 2018 - 09:16.

pinguinul666, on 20 aprilie 2018 - 09:08, said:

Dacă nu există arme chimice in Siria de ce nu sunt lăsați inspectorii Organizației pentru Interzicerea Armelor Chimice(OPCW) să examineze locul presupusului atac?

doxan, on 19 aprilie 2018 - 21:47, said:

deja m-am stricat de ras....
pun pariu ca faza asta o sa fie subiect de film. ceva de genul filmelor cu soldatul sovietic din WW2.

borhot, on 20 aprilie 2018 - 05:24, said:

Care crezi ca a fost rostul primaverilor arabe?
a inflorit undeva democtratia ?
Sai a iesit fundamentalismul la lumina ??
A aparut un regim stabil undeva?
Au aparut, dar exact unde primaverile arabo-americane-vestice nu au reusit


si nu a raspuns nimeni....dece in Iordania este liniste?
iar acolo nicio primavara, desi paletinienii abea asteapta sa se repete situatia din Siria....

Edited by vio69a, 20 April 2018 - 10:54.

Eu nu inteleg cum poti scoate in fata armelor gloate intregi , ca garantat ziceti ca primavara asta araba a fost facuta de SUA.

mariusr1976, on 20 aprilie 2018 - 12:08, said:

Ucraina ??

mariusr1976, on 20 aprilie 2018 - 12:08, said:

Exprimarea diplomatica este SUA si acolitii ei.....!!!

Edited by vio69a, 20 April 2018 - 12:43.

te rog frumos: aliatii (partenerii) SUA.

doxan, on 19 aprilie 2018 - 21:47, said:

doxan, on 19 aprilie 2018 - 21:47, said:

Cea mai buna dovadă că propaganda rusească debitează, as usual, numai inepții e faptul că în locul unde erau cele 3 ținte bombardate de ocidentali se pot planta acum panseluțe

Cris007, on 20 aprilie 2018 - 09:15, said:

Mai lasa naibii minciunile si manipularile!

Armele chimice care au existat in trecut au fost realizate chiar cu sprijinul SUA si UK pentru razboiul cu Iranul.

The United States exported support for Iraq during the Iran–Iraq war over $500 million worth of dual use exports to Iraq that were approved by the Commerce department. Among them were advanced computers, some of which were used in Iraq's nuclear program.[21] The non-profit American Type Culture Collection and the Centers for Disease Control sold or sent biological samples of anthrax, West Nile virus and botulism to Iraq up until 1989, which Iraq claimed it needed for medical research. A number of these materials were used for Iraq's biological weapons research program, while others were used for vaccine development.[22] For example, the Iraqi military settled on the American Type Culture Collection strain 14578 as the exclusive anthrax strain for use as a biological weapon, according to Charles Duelfer.
https://en.wikipedia...27s_WMD_program


According to recently declassified CIA documents and interviews with former intelligence officials like Francona, the U.S. had firm evidence of Iraqi chemical attacks beginning in 1983. At the time, Iran was publicly alleging that illegal chemical attacks were carried out on its forces, and was building a case to present to the United Nations. But it lacked the evidence implicating Iraq, much of which was contained in top secret reports and memoranda sent to the most senior intelligence officials in the U.S. government. The CIA declined to comment for this story.

In contrast to today’s wrenching debate over whether the United States should intervene to stop alleged chemical weapons attacks by the Syrian government, the United States applied a cold calculus three decades ago to Hussein’s widespread use of chemical weapons against his enemies and his own people. The Reagan administration decided that it was better to let the attacks continue if they might turn the tide of the war. And even if they were discovered, the CIA wagered that international outrage and condemnation would be muted.

In the documents, the CIA said that Iran might not discover persuasive evidence of the weapons’ use — even though the agency possessed it. Also, the agency noted that the Soviet Union had previously used chemical agents in Afghanistan and suffered few repercussions.

[...]

"As Iraqi attacks continue and intensify the chances increase that Iranian forces will acquire a shell containing mustard agent with Iraqi markings," the CIA reported in a top secret document in November 1983. "Tehran would take such evidence to the U.N. and charge U.S. complicity in violating international law."

[...]

The declassified CIA documents show that Casey and other top officials were repeatedly informed about Iraq’s chemical attacks and its plans for launching more. "If the Iraqis produce or acquire large new supplies of mustard agent, they almost certainly would use it against Iranian troops and towns near the border," the CIA said in a top secret document.

But it was the express policy of Reagan to ensure an Iraqi victory in the war, whatever the cost.

The CIA noted in one document that the use of nerve agent "could have a significant impact on Iran’s human wave tactics, forcing Iran to give up that strategy." Those tactics, which involved Iranian forces swarming against conventionally armed Iraqi positions, had proved decisive in some battles. In March 1984, the CIA reported that Iraq had "begun using nerve agents on the Al Basrah front and likely will be able to employ it in militarily significant quantities by late this fall."

In late 1987, the DIA analysts in Francona’s shop in Washington wrote a Top Secret Codeword report partially entitled "At The Gates of Basrah," warning that the Iranian 1988 spring offensive was going to be bigger than all previous spring offensives, and this offensive stood a very good chance of breaking through the Iraqi lines and capturing Basrah.

President Reagan read the report and, according to Francona, wrote a note in the margin addressed to Secretary of Defense Frank C. Carlucci: "An Iranian victory is unacceptable."

Subsequently, a decision was made at the top level of the U.S. government (almost certainly requiring the approval of the National Security Council and the CIA). The DIA was authorized to give the Iraqi intelligence services as much detailed information as was available about the deployments and movements of all Iranian combat units.
[...]
The sarin attacks then followed.
The nerve agent causes dizziness, respiratory distress, and muscle convulsions, and can lead to death.
[...]
According to the CIA, two-thirds of all chemical weapons ever used by Iraq during its war with Iran were fired or dropped in the last 18 months of the war.
By 1988, U.S. intelligence was flowing freely to Hussein’s military. That March, Iraq launched a nerve gas attack on the Kurdish village of Halabja in northern Iraq.

http://foreignpolicy...he-gassed-iran/

Invazia din 2003 a fost pentru chestii pur imaginare bazate pe acte false, si alte nimicuri de genul:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Intelligence documents that U.S. and British governments said were strong evidence that Iraq was developing nuclear weapons have been dismissed as forgeries by U.N. weapons inspectors.
http://edition.cnn.c....irq.documents/

Pentru asta a fost invadat Irakul.

vio69a, on 20 aprilie 2018 - 12:44, said:

O tara din estul Europei. Care-i legatura cu primaverile arabe si SUA. Cu dovezi daca se poate, ca tare mult va place ca discutia sa fie asezata pe baze solide, obiectiv dovedite.

Cris007, on 20 aprilie 2018 - 13:47, said:

Metoda e metoda....
Cum i se spune tine de utilizator

Cris007, on 20 aprilie 2018 - 09:15, said:

Scrii continuu minciuna asta! Nu a fost documentat că Assad a dat cu arme chimice.

Geth, on 20 aprilie 2018 - 13:46, said:

Nu mai poate. A devenit a doua lui natură.

vio69a, on 20 aprilie 2018 - 12:44, said:

Adica si astia au fost scosi de americani ?
Prea mare importanta se da americanilor. Probabil au flacara violeta.... Mda, garantat.

Geth, on 20 aprilie 2018 - 13:46, said:

Bun, si ucraina pentru ce a fost rupta ?

Apropo de treaba asta cu armele chimice.

Daca USA a trimis vreodata macar o picatura de ceva in Siria, in cazul asta pot sa fie cam 99,9% convinsi ca Assad are arme chimice. Daca nu exista o alta explicatie logica pentru eveniment, atunci e clar ca Assad este vinovat (prin eliminare) chiar daca nu exista dovezi.

Kersim, on 20 aprilie 2018 - 16:46, said:

Stai putin sa te inteleg corect.
Zici ca daca nu america a dus arme chimice in Siria, atunci sigur este productia proprie a lui Assad de care sun nicio forma nu s-a atins nimeni altcineva si deci, numai el poate fi vinovat,,,,,??

Te-am inteles corect ?

Edited by vio69a, 20 April 2018 - 16:52.

doxan, on 19 aprilie 2018 - 21:47, said:

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La min 4:50 puteti vedea aici o rachetă Tomahawk  care  nu a explodat.