Gothic 3 -Forsaken Gods

au facut praf seria.....ma bucur ca s-au despartit poate ne ajuta domnu sa iasa ceva bun la gothic 4 caci la forsaken gods ma multumesc daca citesc storyu de pe wiki.Doamneee si imi amintesc ce marfa era gothic 1 si 2 tocmai asta ca era vechi si avea un stil aparte parca grafica aia nasoala ajuta la impresie.....cand il jucam nu ma mai opream!

Stimabililor, tocmai butonez la The Witcher, si astfel mi-am dat seama ce munca grea reprezinta un joc fara ecrane de incarcare la fiecare casa, pestera, microregiune. In Gothic, sunt maxim 2 ecrane de incarcare. Iata de ce consuma atatea resurse, iar daca mai introducem in ecuatie si factorul timp ( redus la maximum de JoWood ), obtinem multe probleme.
Oricum, cred ca s-a pierdut atmosfera Gothic incepand cu editia 3

Pai nu e prilej de bucurie , se vad rezultatele la acest add. Grafica este super (il joc la rezolutia 1680x1050 cu setarile la maxim) dar cu multe buguri de gen intra personajele in stanci , nu poti culege anumite obiecte ( de ex nu reusesc sa iau nici un stoneroot de pe langa apa), ...etc. Pe parcursu hartii ingheata pe perioade cam lungi ecranu pana se incarca peisaje noi. La originalu nu era asa. Am avut chiar ocazia sa trec prin niste orci de parca nici nu ar fi fost acolo iar la unele personaje nu apare numele lor. Ma enerveaza si faptul ca nu  mai poti discuta chiar cu toti  ci numai cu persoanele cu care   ai tangenta la questuri.
Si Gothic 4 din pacate tot astia o sa-l scoata , nemtii nu mai au dreptu la acest nume. In schimbi nemtii (baietii care au facut seria gothic pana la gothic 3 in afara de acest add) o sa scoata alt joc asemanator (Risen) pe care personal il astept cu nerabdare.

1.Poate fi si doar un loading ca mie tot imi vine sa-mi dau glont cand pe un q6600 si pe hd4850 pe 1440x900 ti se misca execrabil.(in ce mai tin eu minte 20-25 fps). Si mai era si faza aia cand se bloca jocul cateva secunde si atatea bug-uri.
2.Aici ai cea mai mare dreptate. Pai de  Gothic 1 si 2 poti zice ca sunt jocuri si acum, deci eu sincer mai bine ma joc un gothic 1 sau 2 decat sa ma joc gothic 3 forsaken. Incepand cu gothic 3, care era incredibil de prost de optimizat, apoi cu acesta tentativa de joc "Forsaken Gods" s-a stins totul. Pacat, in loc sa evolueze, ei se duc tot in jos.
Daca asa va fi si gothic 4...

The German website GameStar recently started an investigation on how Forsaken Gods could have become such a bug-catastrophy. To uncover the thruth and nothing but the truth, they talked to the ‘lawyers’ of 'the usual ‘suspects’ Jowood and Trine Games. They also interviewed an important witness, one of the big names at worldofgothic.de.

The first ‘in the line of fire’ was Dr. Albert Seidl, a leading manager of Jowood, who claims that the early release of FG was meant to compensate for all the dissapointment the fans experienced with Gothic 3.
He doesn’t think FG has turned out a PR-disaster. In fact, the criticism on FG was expected, needed and welcome. Although the stream of criticism did hurt it was vital, because important lessons for the future can be extracted from it.
Astonishingly, mr. Seidl admits that Jowood knew about the buggy state FG was in. Their plan to repair the mistakes with the help of a release patch turned out to be a ‘mission impossible’.

Michael Kairat, the producer from Forsaken Gods, defends the company by pointing at the original source code from Gothic 3, which was used for FG. In part, mistakes from the old code were transferred to the addon, and in a number of cases the fixing of problems brought up entirely new ones.

One major witness of the last stage of a disaster-in-the-making was Stefan Bollmann from the German website ‘worldofgothic’. Having been a participant of the beta-testing team, he was in the position to tell GameStar’s ‘inspector’ Heiko Klinge what Jowood did with their bug reports. On the one hand, his Jowood contact person made the impression of doing everything in his power to bring the reported bugs to the attention of the right people. On the other hand FG turned out to be full of those bugs the Beta-testing team had discovered and painstakingly documented for Jowood.
All in all, the team from wog was very surprised by the enormous amount of bugs they had to deal with. The game version they had to test the first time looked more like an early alpha-version. In the series of test versions that followed, new versions always only contained few changes compared to the previous ones.

Sangam Gupta, leading manager of Trine Games, explains that his team had to get used to a new programming code and engine in a very short time. Within the available time they tried hard to eliminate as much of the bugs as possible. He confirms that the beta-testing team provided information on a lot of bugs, thereby delivering proof of Jowood having indeed passed on the bug reports.

Io am jucat G3 pe un Prescott de 3Ghz + HD2600XT si n-am intalnit buguri, inafara de crash-urile aleatorii dupa x ore de joc. Cat despre AddOn,


Cred ca tot factorul timp a intervenit si de data asta. In cazul G3, JoWood n-a lasat suficient timp pt. testare si fixare de buguri. Cel mai probabil, au presat si release-ul la AddOn, pentru ca reprezinta legatura dintre G1-3 si G4.

[...]La addon no comment, mai ales ca reprezinta legatura dintre g3 si g4 de ce naiba nu au lasat mai mult timp la dispozitiie sa il faca macar "decent". Grafica este aceeasi, dar ... restul e un esec total si cu sistemul din semnatura nu stiu daca scot constant 25 fps,se misca uneori execrabil(ce porcarie). Multi nu o sa se poata juca din cauza optimizarii "perfecte", iar multi nu il vor juca. Asa ca hodoronc-tronc apare gothic 4 si eu/voi/multi habar nu o sa am/aveti/aiba idee ce s-a intamplat prin g3 forsaken Gods.(Nu-mi place sa joc un joc doar asa, fara sa urmaresc povestea).[...]

[...]oricum singuru lucru care il mai au de facut e sa adauge 20 loading screenuri ar rezolva problema.......ganditi-va ca in timp ce stati in rebel camp calculatoru proceseaza fiecare cm din harta cu npc si animale deci sigur ar rezolva problema!!!