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Bruxelles-ul tatoneaza ridicarea dreptului de vot al Poloniei. Cum ar fi bine sa voteze Romania ?
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#109
Posted 28 February 2017 - 22:40
Mount_Yerrmom, on 28 februarie 2017 - 13:40, said:
UE este un proiect politic bazat pe valori comune. Ale lor, ale fondatorilor. Mount_Yerrmom, on 28 februarie 2017 - 13:40, said:
In acest proiect au fost cooptate, din ratiuni mai degraba sentimental-strategice, in pofida performantelor economice si a pedigree-ului democratic, un numar de state care, devine evident acum, doar au simulat conformarea la setul de valori fundamentale ale organizatiei. Mount_Yerrmom, on 28 februarie 2017 - 13:40, said:
Aceste state profita de mecanismele organizatiei pentru a o deraia, pentru a o transforma dupa chipul si asemanarea lor. Mount_Yerrmom, on 28 februarie 2017 - 13:40, said:
E important ca Romania sa nu ajunga in aceeasi gasca cu iliberalii unguri si polaci. Edited by leogoto, 28 February 2017 - 22:42. |
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Posted 28 February 2017 - 22:55
#111
Posted 28 February 2017 - 22:58
#112
Posted 28 February 2017 - 23:23
#113
Posted 28 February 2017 - 23:42
Cu Polonia se pare ca e vorba si de un conflcit domestic intre Donald Tusk si Kaczynski care acum a fost exportat la nivel de UE, trebuie analizata situatia si din perspectiva asta. Pare a fi o vendetta intre cei doi, ceva gen razboiul institutional din Romania.
http://www.reuters.c...k-idUSKBN1671U3 |
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Posted 01 March 2017 - 01:32
#115
Posted 01 March 2017 - 01:55
leogoto, on 01 martie 2017 - 01:32, said:
La seral, deduc. Ca doara nu puteai invata despre universul mirific al UE in anii 80 cand (presupun) ai facut scolarizarea corespunzatoare varstei. Deduci prost. Secretul e altul si ti-l ofer gratis: diversificarea bibliotecii. De fapt, poti sa renunti de tot la astea Attached Files |
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Posted 01 March 2017 - 08:15
#117
Posted 01 March 2017 - 13:46
Mount_Yerrmom, on 01 martie 2017 - 01:55, said:
Secretul e altul si ti-l ofer gratis: diversificarea bibliotecii. De fapt, poti sa renunti de tot la astea Intre timp ma amuz in continuare vazand ca esti incapabil sa te raportezi la sinergia faptelor, fiind ancorat in meandrele dogtrinei. |
#118
Posted 14 March 2017 - 22:25
Polonia va bloca toate initiativele Bruxelles-ului, ca represalii la votarea fara unanimitate a lui Tusk.
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14 MARCH 2017 • 1:55PM The Polish government has warned it could block EU initiatives in retaliation for "cheating" by Brussels after it failed to stop its former prime minister,Donald Tusk, winning a second term as European Council president. The threat, made by Witold Waszczykowski, Poland's foreign minister, casts further doubt over the chances of an EU already beset by a multitude of problems showing a unified front at a key summit in Rome later this month. Warsaw was left seething by the re-election of Mr Tusk after it fielded its own candidate, MEP Jacek Saryusz-Wolski, but lost the vote 27-1 with only Beata Szydlo, the Polish prime minister, casting the one anti-Tusk vote. Mr Tusk, a former Polish prime minister, is the political arch-enemy of Poland’s ruling conservative Law and Justice party, led by Jaroslaw Kaczynski. Mr Kaczynski has accused Mr Tusk of using his position to undermine Poland in Brussels. Poland is currently being reviewed by the European Commission for its allegedly undemocratic reforms to the judiciary and media. Se pare ca Polonia vrea sa-i fie "onoarea reperata"... sau cel putin luata in consideratie ca un membru deplin al UE. In alta ordine de idei, Polonia exclude orice sugestie ca ar incerca un Polexit in viitor. Quote
Poland is not considering leaving the EU, deputy Foreign Affairs Minister Jan Dziedziczak has said in an interview with Polish broadcaster Telewizja Republika. Dziedziczak said suggestions that Poland’s governing Law and Justice (PiS) party wants the country to quit the European Union are “nonsense”, adding that the claim was put forward because of “inter-party rivalry”. “But the EU may have a problem with other countries,” Dziedziczak said. “We soon have elections in the Kingdom of the Netherlands, we can all see what is happening there,” he said, referring to an international standoff between the Netherlands and Turkey and riots in Rotterdam. Other threats to the bloc, according to Dziedziczak, are right-wing presidential candidate Marine Le Pen, who is “raging in France”, the economic situation in Eurozone countries Italy and Greece, and Brexit, which “is not the beginning of a European crisis but is the result of Europe’s ongoing policies.” Dziedziczak said European Commission head Jean-Claude Juncker has “criticised Europe’s leaders for listening to… the citizens of their countries”, adding that this was “scandalous” and “perfectly plays to western, anti-EU rhetoric”. Dziedziczak’s statements come after the Polish daily Rzeczpospolita on Monday reported that Le Pen said she is willing to work with the leader of Poland's ruling PiS party, Jarosław Kaczyński, in order to “dismantle” the European Union. A Rzeczpospolita reporter later apologised for misquoting the French presidential candidate. |
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#119
Posted 15 March 2017 - 21:56
Hunor_66, on 14 martie 2017 - 22:25, said:
Polonia va bloca toate initiativele Bruxelles-ului, ca represalii la votarea fara unanimitate a lui Tusk. Se pare ca Polonia vrea sa-i fie "onoarea reperata"... sau cel putin luata in consideratie ca un membru deplin al UE. In alta ordine de idei, Polonia exclude orice sugestie ca ar incerca un Polexit in viitor. Apropo, lamultean, de ziua bozg*rilor de pretutindeni... |
#120
Posted 01 April 2017 - 23:35
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Polish Prime Minister Beata Szydło has said that the European Union’s migration policy has proved to be a failure, adding that her country will not be “blackmailed” into taking in refugees. Speaking after a meeting in Warsaw with her counterparts from the Czech Republic, Slovakia and Hungary, Szydło slammed EU migration commissioner Dimitris Avramopoulos for telling the bloc’s interior ministers that there should be "no more excuses" and "no more talk about relocation, but delivery." Szydło also referred to a statement by the German interior minister, who said that the European Commission “must ensure the law [on refugees] is respected and has the tools to do so.” Szydło said such statements are “a misunderstanding and a blackmail attempt”. “The Visegrad group, including Poland, will never agree to blackmail and will not agree to such terms being dictated to them,” she said. In September 2015, EU leaders decided that each country would accept a number of asylum seekers over two years to alleviate the pressure on Greece and Italy, which have seen a flood of asylum seekers from the Middle East. EU leaders decided to relocate a total of about 100,000 refugees of more than two million people who arrived in Europe since 2015. However, only 14,000 migrants from refugee camps in countries along the Mediterranean coast have been relocated in the EU. Poland, which had been assigned 6,200 refugees, has not taken in any of them. Apropos de ce spuneam in postarea initiala. Timmermans a renuntat sa "puna Polonia la colt". Se constata inca o data (dupa atatea sute si mii de ori in istoria continentului european), ca verticalitatea si puterea de caracter au intotdeauna sorti de izbanda. Asadar, comisia europeana renunta la a mai incerca si sa discute (!) eventuala sanctionare a Poloniei. Polonia (Visegrad) - UE : 1-0 Quote
The European Commission will not try to impose sanctions on Poland over its breaches of the rule of law any time soon. Commission vice president Frans Timmermans, in charge of the procedure that was launched more than a year ago, told MEPs on Wednesday (22 March) that the previous concerns still remained. "The Polish government hasn't given us any reasons for optimism. The situation is getting worse," he told members of the civic liberties committee. Beata Szydlo's government still refuses to publish some of the rulings of the constitutional court and the president Andrzej Duda has blocked judges appointed by the last parliament from being sworn in. Last December the Polish parliament appointed a new president of the constitutional court, in a way that the commission says was a breach of the constitution. It was the first time that Timmermans spoke on the matter since Poland last month handed in its response to the commission's second batch of recommendations on how to protect rule of law in the country, on top of earlier guidelines issued last July. Poland dismissed the recommendations as "political interference" and largely ignored them. But Timmermans ruled out moving the procedure to the next step, which would entail punishing Poland with sanctions, as laid down in Article 7 of the EU treaty. "I think that invoking Article 7 now would be self-defeating and will not help us in the wider context of what is still going on," Timmermans said. Bad time for sanctions EU governments are reluctant to back such a measure, which would have to be imposed by unanimity in the EU Council, representing member states. Hungary's Viktor Orban and UK's Theresa May are likely to wield their veto. Others fear that EU sanctions of a national government would only add to the many challenges the EU is already facing, not least, the launch of Brexit negotiations. The commission would also likely struggle to find the necessary number of countries to establish that there was a threat to the rule of law in Poland. This step, unlike the unanimity on sanctions, requires the backing of 22 member states. In one indication, only 15 countries are part of an informal "Friends of rule of law” group, which gathers EU ministers and MEPs, and in which the Polish question has been unofficially discussed. The only representative from central and eastern Europe was Estonia, which often defines itself as a Nordic country. The European Parliament could also confirm the threat to the rule of law by two-thirds of MEPs, but few of them are keen to do that. Instead, they want the commission to do its part and then let blame for vetoes fall on the council. "Sometimes I am tempted to be the biggest hero for a day and just invoke Article 7," Timmermans said, referring to the EU treaty clause that governs the sanctions procedure. "Nothing would happen, but at least we would have done our duty," he said. He added that such a step would end the commission's powers to monitor the situation in Poland. P.S. Romania nu mai trebuie sa-si faca griji ca va trebui sa voteze in vreun fel si nu stie cum. Nu mai e cazul. Polonia a castigat confruntarea... Edited by Hunor_66, 01 April 2017 - 23:35. |
#121
Posted 02 April 2017 - 00:19
#122
Posted 02 April 2017 - 13:36
vio69a, on 02 aprilie 2017 - 00:19, said:
La ce te referi ? La faptul ca, dupa ce Bruxelul o amenintat-o ca-i face si-i drege, o lasat-o balta cu amenintarile si nici macar nu mai pune problema poloneza in discutie. Matale citisi articolul de mai sus ? vio69a, on 02 aprilie 2017 - 00:19, said:
Romania a ales deja. [...] Va vota ce este bine ei ... Polonia o invins in confruntarea cu Bruxelul, fara a se mai ajunge la vreun vot. |
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