Catalonia și-a declarat INDEPENDENȚA față de Spania. Mii de catalani au ieșit în stradă

 Wotan, on 12 noiembrie 2018 - 15:39, said:

tygan, boschetar, gay & anarhist - demonstrant de profesie

Edited by Mount_Yerrmom, 12 November 2018 - 17:43.

 Wotan, on 12 noiembrie 2018 - 15:39, said:

....Ti-a trecut .....sau ai ramas impresionat de Lagardere ........???

 Wotan, on 12 noiembrie 2018 - 15:07, said:

Asta nu este neaparat un lucru demn de lauda. Conform statisticilor, cele mai cautate lucruri pe internet sunt legate de pornografie....

 Costel2014, on 12 noiembrie 2018 - 16:09, said:

Daca si asta a ajuns sa fuga dupa politisti spanioli prin Barcelona ca sa-i trimita acasa, cam rau au ajuns.
Noroc ca i-au protejat Mossos de bandele de extremisti gay calalani de Ferentari, ca altfel era vai de kurul lor...

 Wotan, on 12 noiembrie 2018 - 20:47, said:

Ala a facut pe smecherul la o manifestatie a neofascistilor din octombrie 2017 si l-au scos Mossos din mainile alora, nu mai dezinforma....nu are nici o treaba cu manifestatia politistilor spanioli, a spus chiar gipsanul pe contul lui de Twitter: El activista gitano "SinTecho" @lagarder81 acude a la manifestación franquista de Madrid que conmemora a Franco y sucede esto ...
https://observator.t...deo-232245.html

Edited by Costel2014, 12 November 2018 - 20:54.

Eu vorbeam de demonstratia politistilor spanioli de sambata, din Barcelona. Eh oricum, chiar daca e rrom si gay, e roman de-al nostru. Sper ca n-o sa sustineti separatisme gen Ferentari nu e Bucuresti, dupa ce i-ati facut pe catalani spanioli, ca vor, ca nu vor...

 Wotan, on 12 noiembrie 2018 - 22:16, said:

O dam in offtopic, daca ma apuc eu, ca bucurestean sa argumentez. Catalanii sunt spanioli, de pe la 1137 cand s-au casatorit Petronilla de Aragon şi Ramon Berenguer IV – conte de Barcelona.

Impartialitatea justitiei spaniole, pusa serios in discutie https://www.irishtim...rdict-1.3695493

"The European Court of Human Rights had just ruled that the 2010 trial of Otegi and four others before Spain’s high court, for allegedly reforming the outlawed Batasuna party, had been flawed. The Strasbourg tribunal had found that the presiding Spanish judge in the case, Ángela Murillo, who jailed the five defendants, “had shown a lack of impartiality” due to comments she had made during a separate trial of Otegi."
"On the same day, Spain’s supreme court performed a dramatic U-turn on a ruling it had made two weeks earlier on who should pay a mortgage tax. In the initial decision, the court had ruled that banks, not their customers, should pay"
"In its revised judgment, the court decided that bank customers should pay the tax after all, to the relief of the financial sector and the outrage of many Spaniards."
"Other, very different, cases have also put some of the country’s main tribunals in the eye of the storm. In recent months, the high court has handed a string of jail sentences to rappers, artists and Twitter users for terrorism-related offences. The Mallorcan rapper Josep Miquel Arenas, known as Valtònyc, has fled to Belgium, to avoid a 3½-year sentence for threats, glorifying terrorism and insulting the monarchy in his lyrics. Arenas has claimed that his prosecution is part of a far-right conspiracy to muzzle leftist voices."
"Carles Puigdemont, the exiled former president of Catalonia, scored a victory against the Spanish supreme court earlier this year when a German tribunal refused to extradite him on rebellion charges. Since then, Puigdemont has placed Spain “alongside Kazakhstan among the criminal states which refuse to submit to the principles that govern fundamental universal rights.”"
"a 2018 European Commission Scorecard, which ranked public confidence in the independence of countries’ courts and judges, placed Spain a lowly 23rd, behind Romania and Latvia"
"One indicator of how Spaniards’ view of their magistrates has changed has been visible since April, when a court in Navarre controversially absolved five men of raping a woman in 2016, in the so-called “Manada” case. Such was the vilification of the three judges involved that they now reportedly have bodyguards."

 Wotan, on 13 noiembrie 2018 - 12:27, said:

Pai sa mearga in Kazahstan, la familia Nazarbaev, sa ii faca aia dreptate, daca are incredere jucatorul de table in aia si ii compara cu spaniolii....
Cazaul "Manada" este foarte complicat, il cunosc, dar as face prea mult offtopic daca m-as referi pe larg la el. Retine doar ca tipa era beata si nu a zis nimic cand aia i-au propus sa intretina relatii sexuale, era in timpul sarbatorii de Saint Fermin, in timpul coridelor si cursei cu tauri faimoase in intreaga lume.

 Costel2014, on 13 noiembrie 2018 - 13:21, said:

Niste judecatori belgieni sau germani ar fi suficienti. Stim de acum in favoarea cui ar fi sentintele...

 Wotan, on 13 noiembrie 2018 - 14:33, said:

Propun slovaci sau francezi....

Europarlamentari din diverse grupuri europene critica dur acuzatiile si pedepsele cerute contra prizonierilor catalani https://www.theparli...tical-prisoners

"The EU-Catalonia dialogue platform has signed a joint statement expressing its deep concern at the “harsh” sentences demanded by the Spanish prosecutor for Catalan political prisoners who had “peacefully and democratically” pursued their nation's right to self-determination."
"The statement goes on, “Catalan leaders have been accused of crimes they have not committed based on violence that has not existed. Furthermore, the fact that the press had access to the document before the lawyers of the defendants is, once again, clear evidence of the many irregularities and violations of the rights of the defendants that are surrounding this cause.”"
"“The already shrinking position of the EU as guarantor of fundamental rights would be irreversibly affected; and its silence has also contributed to make European citizens feel that the European Institutions are far away and do not really protect them as they are supposed to.”
“For all these reasons, we want to make a call to the European institutions to urgently reconsider what protecting, promoting and guaranteeing civil and political rights mean to them,” the statement added."

Iar Junqueras si Puigdemont se pregatesc si ei sa candideze pentru parlamentul european https://sputniknews....ament-election/

 Wotan, on 14 noiembrie 2018 - 11:48, said:

Junqueras crede ca ii vor da spaniolii drumul din inchisoare daca va candida? Aham, sa stea pe aproape (de celula) in continuare......

Vor fi un pic de discutiii in Parlamentul European cand spaniolii vor tine un europarlamentar inchis, nu-i asa?
Chiar si cei care pana acum nu au fost preocupati de Criza Catalana, n-o sa le placa ideea... Excelenta miscarea, sunt sigur ca a fost planificata de Putschdemon.

 Wotan, on 14 noiembrie 2018 - 15:37, said:

Vor fi chiar mai multe, dar vor ramane discutii. Asa vor sti si spaniolii ce prieteni si ce dusmani au prin Europa... Iar cand spaniolii vor veni cu dovezile privind implicarea Rusiei in sustinerea mediatica a referendumului, sau despre teroarea exercitata de stalinistii din CUP asupra copiilor din scolile catalane, sa te tii distractie... Vor fi si europarlamentari din PP sau Ciudadanos, nu doar socialisti sau separatisti, asa ca adevarul va iesi la lumina...Rugati-va sa nu trimita si extremistii din VOX vreun zanatic prin Parlamentul European, ca sa vezi ce omor le da aia (la propriu) separatistilor si sustinatorilor lor...

Edited by Costel2014, 14 November 2018 - 16:02.

Vreti separatism? Luati de aici! Iata modul salbatic in care trateaza China problema separatismului uigur!  https://adevarul.ro/...69a6/index.html
Aici sunt detinuti politici adevarati, nu in Spania! Ar trebui mai multa decenta din partea celor care acuza Spania de toate relele lumii. Sa vada cum reprima chinezii pe oricine misca in front si cracneste impotriva Partidului.

Ai impresia ca China este un model pentru lumea civilizata ?
Detinuti politici adevarati sunt si in Spania.

 Hunor_66, on 15 noiembrie 2018 - 07:58, said:

In materie de politica, nu este un model. Am pus link-ul cu articolul din "Adevarul" tocmai pentru a putea vedea ce inseamna cu adevarat represiune politica, spre deosebire de comportamentul unei tari democratice. Inutil, dupa cum constat, unii vor sa ramana orbi in fata realitatii. Stalin ar fi mandru de voi: "partidul (aka Puigdemont) are intotdeauna dreptate!" Homo sovieticus se simte minunat in pusta maghiara, dupa cum constat. Trezirea la realitate, va fi foarte dura pentru voi, dar absolut inutila. Sper doar ca justitia spaniola sa dea niste pedepse dure infractorilor catalani, ca sa ma pot amuza de vaicarerile ipocrite ale sustinatorilor separatistilor.