Ce fel de dovezi ati dori de la Dumnezeu?

 TOPCATBV, on 20 septembrie 2012 - 12:34, said:

Poti sa-mi spui exact ce si cum e istoria ? Poate te gandesti la manuale de istorie de clasa V.
Am fost totdeauna dornic sa aud cum ar trebui sa arate claificarile unui istoric din sec I - ce diplome trebuia sa detina.


Most scholars understand Luke's works (Luke-Acts) in the tradition of Greek historiography.[15] The preface of The Gospel of Luke[16] drawing on historical investigation is believed to have identified the work to the readers as belonging to the genre of history.[17] There is some disagreement about how best to treat Luke's writings, with some historians regarding Luke as highly accurate, and others taking a more critical approach.
Based on his accurate description of towns, cities and islands, as well as correctly naming various official titles, archaeologist Sir William Ramsay wrote that "Luke is a historian of the first rank; not merely are his statements of fact trustworthy...[he] should be placed along with the very greatest of historians." It should be noted, however, that Ramsay makes no claims about the events described by Luke.[18] Professor of classics at Auckland University, E.M. Blaiklock, wrote: "For accuracy of detail, and for evocation of atmosphere, Luke stands, in fact, with Thucydides. The Acts of the Apostles is not shoddy product of pious imagining, but a trustworthy record...it was the spadework of archaeology which first revealed the truth."[19] New Testament scholar Colin Hemer has made a number of advancements in understanding the historical nature and accuracy of Luke's writings.[20]

 TOPCATBV, on 20 septembrie 2012 - 13:34, said:

Asta spune ceva despre tine, nu despre Biblie - btw, acolo sunt 66 de carti distincte, aia e o culegere de fapt etc.

Invariabil discutia se reduce la un dialog basic apologetic pe teme rasuflate cu persoane neinformate, simt ca lupt cu soldatii aia ramasi in transee 20 de ani dupa terminarea razboiului - fiindca ei nu au aflat.
Imi veti scuza absenta.

Pai si Homer nu a fantasmat la greu, chiar daca povestile sale au baze reale?

Dar nu mi-ai spus de ce cel care nu a vazut si a crezut este binecuvantat, in raport cu cel care a vazut si a crezut.

 nuda, on 20 septembrie 2012 - 13:14, said:

E o stare a mintii ce se numeste inconstienta
Totusi, ce e rau in a cere dovezi? De ce esti binecuvantat daca crezi fara sa ceri dovezi, in afara de comoditatea intelectuala pe care ti-o confera?

 karuna, on 20 septembrie 2012 - 14:38, said:

Ma gandesc ca daca o citesti, gasesti.

BIBLE
It is full of interest. It has noble poetry in it; and some clever fables; and some blood-drenched history; and some good morals; and a wealth of obscenity; and upwards of a thousand lies.
- Letters from the Earth, Mark Twain

 TOPCATBV, on 20 septembrie 2012 - 16:25, said:

Pai vad ca deocamdata nu gandesti cu capul tau, ci ti-ai format o prejudecata conform parerilor unor "specialisti" la fel de purtati pe la biserica virgula ca si tine.

Edited by karuna, 22 September 2012 - 22:27.

Fabulos: la cat au citit ateii citate anti-Biblie comparativ cu citirea Bibliei insasi, probabil raportul e de 100:1. Inca o data, fascinant.
Cat despre Mark Twain, omul a fost foarte haios. Sa-ti pariezi viata si eternitatea pe emanatiile mintii sale in schimb reprezinta un salt in gol care ma umple (din nou) de fascinatie.

 overseas, on 23 septembrie 2012 - 21:44, said:

Ce sa-i faci, asta-i situatia.... Sunt si ei ca pruncii pe langa tata.

 karuna, on 22 septembrie 2012 - 22:27, said:

Banuiesc ca Twain avea capacitati de a deosebi o fabula de o relatare istorica.

 overseas, on 23 septembrie 2012 - 21:44, said:

Ce???