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Am nevoie de o schema tv samsung CK 20H1T.La pornirea din telecomanda,tv-ul porneste cu sunet iar imaginea dupa 5-10 minute ......

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 danutzvl, on Jan 20 2007, 23:38, said:

Am nevoie de o schema tv samsung CK 20H1T.La pornirea din telecomanda,tv-ul porneste cu sunet iar imaginea dupa 5-10 minute ......
   Pe transformatorul de linii ai 2 potentiometre unul focus celalalt (in partea de jos de regula) SCREEN
din acest potentiometru SCREEN incearca sa ajustezi tensiunea G2 ceva mai mare.

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Eu zic ca problema nu ar fi de acolo...eu cred ca are o lipitura imperfecta pe traseul ce alimenteaza filamentul tubului, si nu numai ( poate fi bara de tensiune B+ ). E bine sa te uiti atent dupa lipituri imperfecte.

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 tehnics, on Jan 21 2007, 01:08, said:

Eu zic ca problema nu ar fi de acolo...eu cred ca are o lipitura imperfecta pe traseul ce alimenteaza filamentul tubului, si nu numai ( poate fi bara de tensiune B+ ). E bine sa te uiti atent dupa lipituri imperfecte.
In acesta situatie este mai putin probabila aparitia unei lipituri imperfecte.
Solutia propusa anterior de catre paul pin incearca sa compenseze uzura tubului.
Televizorul respectiv are ca circuit final video seria TDA884x.
Aceste circuit face o calibrare continua a catozilor si de aceea daca curentii prin catozi la inceput nu permit atingerea parametrilor optimi se intarzie cu afisarea imaginii.
Se mai intampla ca prin descarcari electrostatice sa fie afectat continutul memoriei EEPROM si  de aici obtinerea unor valori diferite de calibrare sau blocarea tubului...  B)

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RGB output circuit and black-current stabilisation
The colour-difference signals are matrixed with the
luminance signal to obtain the RGB-signals. The TDA
884X devices have one (linear) RGB input. This RGB
signal can be controlled on contrast and brightness (like
TDA 8374/75). By means of the IE1 bit the insertion
blanking can be switched on or off. Via the IN1 bit it can be
read whether the insertion pin has a high level or not.
The TDA 885X IC’s have an additional RGB input. This
RGB signal can be controlled on contrast, saturation and
brightness. The insertion blanking of this input can be
switched-off by means of the IE2 bit. Via the IN2 bit it can
be read whether the insertion pin has a high level or not.
The output signal has an amplitude of about 2 volts
black-to-white at nominal input signals and nominal
settings of the controls. To increase the flexibility of the IC
it is possible to insert OSD and/or teletext signals directly
at the RGB outputs. This insertion mode is controlled via
the insertion input (pin 26 in the S-DIP 56- and pin 38 in the
QFP-64 envelope). This blanking action at the RGB
outputs has some delay which must be compensated
externally.
To obtain an accurate biasing of the picture tube a
“Continuous Cathode Calibration” circuit has been
developed. This function is realised by means of a 2-point
black level stabilisation circuit. By inserting 2 test levels for
each gun and comparing the resulting cathode currents
with 2 different reference currents the influence of the
picture tube parameters like the spread in cut-off voltage
can be eliminated.
This 2-point stabilisation is based on
the principle that the ratio between the cathode currents is
coupled to the ratio between the drive voltages according
to:
The feedback loop makes the ratio between the cathode
currents Ik1 and Ik2 equal to the ratio between the
reference currents (which are internally fixed) by changing
the (black) level and the amplitude of the RGB output
signals via 2 converging loops. The system operates in
such a way that the black level of the drive signal is
controlled to the cut-off point of the gun so that a very good
grey scale tracking is obtained. The accuracy of the
adjustment of the black level is just dependent on the ratio
of internal currents and these can be made very accurately
in integrated circuits. An additional advantage of the
2-point measurement is that the control system makes the
absolute value of Ik1 and Ik2 identical to the internal
reference currents. Because this adjustment is obtained
by means of an adaption of the gain of the RGB control
stage this control stabilises the gain of the complete
channel (RGB output stage and cathode characteristic).
As a result variations in the gain figures during life will be
compensated by this 2-point loop.

An important property of the 2-point stabilisation is that the
off-set as well as the gain of the RGB path is adjusted by
the feedback loop. Hence the maximum drive voltage for
the cathode is fixed by the relation between the test
pulses, the reference current and the relative gain setting
of the 3 channels. This has the consequence that the drive
level of the CRT cannot be adjusted by adapting the gain
of the RGB output stage. Because different picture tubes
may require different drive levels the typical “cathode drive
level” amplitude can be adjusted by means of an I2C-bus
setting.
Dependent on the chosen cathode drive level the
typical gain of the RGB output stages can be fixed taking
into account the drive capability of the RGB outputs (pins
19 to 21). More details about the design will be given in the
application report.
The measurement of the “high” and the “low” current of the
2- point stabilisation circuit is carried out in 2 consecutive
fields. The leakage current is measured in each field. The
maximum allowable leakage current is 100 mA
When the TV receiver is switched-on the RGB output
signals are blanked and the black current loop will try to set
the right picture tube bias levels. Via the AST bit a choice
can be made between automatic start-up or a start-up via
the m-processor. In the automatic mode the RGB drive
signals are switched-on as soon as the black current loop
has been stabilised. In the other mode the BCF bit is set to
0 when the loop is stabilised. The RGB drive can than be
switched-on by setting the AST bit to 0. In the latter mode
some delay can be introduced between the setting of the
BCF bit and the switching of the AST bit so that switch-on
effects can be suppressed.

It is also possible to start-up the devices with a fixed
internal delay (as with the TDA 837X and the TDA884X/5X
N1). This mode is activated with the BCO bit.
The vertical blanking is adapted to the incoming CVBS
signal (50 Hz or 60 Hz). When the flyback time of the
vertical output stage is longer than the 60 Hz blanking time
the blanking can be increased to the same value as that of
the 50 Hz blanking. This can be set by means of the LBM
bit.

For an easy (manual) adjustment of the Vg2 control voltage
the VSD bit is available. When this bit is activated the black
current loop is switched-off, a fixed black level is inserted
at the RGB outputs and the vertical scan is switched-off so
that a horizontal line is displayed on the screen. This line
can be used as indicator for the Vg2 adjustment. Because
of the different requirements for the optimum cut-off
voltage of the picture tube the RGB output level is
adjustable when the VSD bit is activated. The control
range is 2.5 ± 0.7 V and can be controlled via the
brightness control DAC.
It is possible to insert a so called “blue back” back-ground
level when no video is available. This feature can be
activated via the BB bit in the control2 subaddress.


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