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Ce beneficii?

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Curățarea la nivel celular e cel mai mare beneficiu, cel pe care îl urmăresc eu. Fac lunar post de câteva zile (3-4-5, depinde cât rezist), iar uneori mai introduc săptămânal 1-2 zile. Săptămâna trecută am rezistat aproape 3 zile, săptămâna asta nicio zi (după cum am mai spus)

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Nu sunt convins ca beneficiile merita efortul pe care-l faci. Si loucarb si nemancat.

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Notably, the various fasting approaches are likely to have limited efficacy particularly on aging and conditions other than obesity unless combined with diets such as the moderate calorie intake and mostly plant-based Mediterranean or Okinawa low protein diets (0.8 g protein/Kg of body weight), consistently associated with health and longevity.
Fasting: Molecular Mechanisms and Clinical Applications

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View PostEXIT, on 10 martie 2016 - 13:56, said:

In veganism nu trebuie sa restrictionezi cel mai abundent macro-nutriment.
R10 face foamea zile intregi etc. Are pofte la 12 noaptea etc. Pare ca se chinuieste.
Eu cand mi-e foame mananc. Inghetata. :)
Sigur nu trebuie restricționat? :)))
Si eu cand mi-e foame mănânc. O mâna de nuci, o bucata de brânza...o bucata de Sorici...înghețată raw vegan, din banane si fructe de pădure...

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Poti sa mananci cati carbi vrei. :)

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Pe bune???? Realizezi ca, cu afirmația asta ii dai in cap idolului tău...nu?

Edited by richelieu, 10 March 2016 - 22:12.


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La mine functioneaza foarte bine ciorba de oase (de porc, de vita). Mananc o portie buna pe zi, cu smantana, si nu mi-e foame toata ziua.

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Oops !

http://edition.cnn.c...ncer/index.html


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Study links foods with high glycemic index, such as white bread and white rice, with increased risk of lung cancer
Diets rich in red meat and dairy and low in fruits and vegetables have previously been associated with higher lung cancer risk

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Scrie și tu ce ai mâncat în ultimul an. :)
Articolul este o încercare patetică de a apăra consumul de carne prin metoda "uite că și carbohidrații îți dă cancer" sau "oricum toate e cancerigene, mâncaț carne!".

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Vezi că patetic în limba noastră nu înseamnă ce înseamnă în engleză.

Of, măcar să știi înțelesul cuvintelor pe care le folosești

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Aseară am mâncat prăjituri, de la ălea mi se trage.
Trebuie să îmi fac și o radiografie la plămâni că mănânc foarte mulți carbi și după afectarea creierului numai un cancer la plămâni îmi mai lipsește.

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Adică asocierea nu e același lucru cu cauzalitatea, cum ne învăța T. Colin Campbell ?!

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Nu stiu ce te invata Campbell.
Astept si alte studii care sa arate ca carbohidratii provoaca cancer la plamani. Acest studiu este foarte slab.

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NU te ataca asa, articolul este echilibrat si incrimineaza carbs cu indice glicemic mare, cu care nici tu nu esti de acord.
Pe de alta parte, nici eu de ex. nu consider carnea alimentul ideal, aproape sigur in urmatorii ani voi reduce carnea rosie. Oricum favorizez puiul si pestele de provenienta sigura.
Desi in contextul actual prefer orice aliment nepoluat fata de o dieta ideala din surse industrializate.

The current study is not the first time that high glycemic index foods have been implicated in cancer. Studies have suggested that these foods could increase the risk of ovarian cancer, thyroid cancer and colorectal cancer. "However, from all of these studies the results have been inconclusive," with some studies finding an association and others not finding an association, Wu said.
There have also been suggestions through the decades that diets that are very low in carbohydrates in general could help control the progression of breast and other cancers, although the data is sparse.
"These data are suggestive that (high glycemic index foods) may be a risk factor, but we always need confirmation from multiple studies," said Marian L. Neuhouser, a member of the Cancer Prevention Program at the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, who was not involved in the current study.

http://cebp.aacrjour.../3/532.abstract
Background: Postprandial glucose (PPG) and insulin responses play a role in carcinogenesis. We evaluated the association between dietary glycemic index (GI) and glycemic load (GL), markers of carbohydrate intake and PPG, and lung cancer risk in non-Hispanic whites.
Methods: GL and GI were assessed among 1,905 newly diagnosed lung cancer cases recruited from the University of Texas MD Anderson Cancer Center (Houston, TX) and 2,413 healthy controls recruited at Kelsey-Seybold Clinics (Houston, TX). We assessed associations between quintiles of GI/GL and lung cancer risk and effect modification by various risk factors. ORs and 95% confidence intervals (CI) were estimated using multivariable logistic regression.
Results: We observed a significant association between GI [5th vs. 1st quintile (Q) OR = 1.49; 95% CI, 1.21–1.83; Ptrend <0.001] and lung cancer risk and GIac (5th vs. 1st Q OR = 1.48; 95% CI, 1.20–1.81; Ptrend = 0.001) and lung cancer risk. We observed a more pronounced association between GI and lung cancer risk among never smokers (5th vs. 1st Q OR = 2.25; 95% CI, 1.42–3.57), squamous cell carcinomas (SCC; 5th vs. 1st Q OR = 1.92; 95% CI, 1.30–2.83), and those with less than 12 years of education (5th vs. 1st Q OR = 1.75; 95% CI, 1.19–2.58, Pinteraction = 0.02).
Conclusion: This study suggests that dietary GI and other lung cancer risk factors may jointly and independently influence lung cancer etiology.
Impact: Understanding the role of GI in lung cancer could inform prevention strategies and elucidate biologic pathways related to lung cancer risk. Cancer Epidemiol Biomarkers Prev; 25(3); 532–9. ©2016 AACR.

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View Postoverseas, on 17 martie 2016 - 10:25, said:

NU te ataca asa, articolul este echilibrat si incrimineaza carbs cu indice glicemic mare, cu care nici tu nu esti de acord.
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Ba eu sunt de acord si cu aceia.

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View PostEXIT, on 17 martie 2016 - 10:45, said:

Ba eu sunt de acord si cu aceia.

fugi de aici
in cazul asta ma duc sa-mi ard o friptura, fumeganda o halesc

Edited by overseas, 17 March 2016 - 10:55.


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Dacă ai o hârtie, Exit e de acord și face orice îi spui, pentru că acea hârtie te face competent

Edited by R10, 17 March 2016 - 10:58.


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Nu-i adevarat. Tre' sa ai o hartie, cu care sa fie de acord skeptical :lol:. Ca si nutritionista care m-a invatat pe mine la LCHF, are doctorat in nutritie, facut in Italia, da' iti dai seama ca hartiile ei nu-s bune de nimic...;)

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