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Last Updated: Nov 01 2004 13:05, Started by Mirror Face , Jan 18 2004 00:32

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#19
moartea

Posted 20 January 2004 - 16:11

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ruland comanda respectiva vei afla daca persoana respectiva a contribuit cu ceva la kernel-ul linux. daca da, atunci sigur e 'programator fanatic' :)

whoami: discutabil cel mai bun limbaj de programare este C. Unde bun nu inseamna neaparat bun, dar portabil/universal acceptat/se bazeaza pe sintaxa lui multe alte limbaje (java,perl,php, etc)/etc.

#20
Mirror Face

Posted 21 January 2004 - 01:40

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Exista romani care au contribuit la kernel-ul Linux?

#21
Seven[BERE]

Posted 21 January 2004 - 08:56

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Se pare ca da, cel putin la drivere si dupa adresa de mail:
drivers/sbus/char/aurora.c: *   Copyright © 1999 by Oliver Aldulea (oli at bv dot ro)
drivers/usb/serial/xircom_pgs_fw.h: * Copyright © 2001 Cristian M. Craciunescu
drivers/video/tridentfb.c: * Copyright 2001,2002 - Jani Monoses

Probabil mai sunt si altii care au adrese de email in spatiul .net .com etc.

bye

#22
moartea

Posted 21 January 2004 - 10:51

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Da, pe unul dintre ei chiar il cunosc:

/usr/src/linux/fs/umsdos/README-WIP.txt:versa. Thanks to Sorin Iordachescu for providing fix.

#23
Panthera

Posted 26 February 2004 - 15:49

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F. greu in ASM nu e sa lucrezi. Dar iti trebuie disciplina si capacitatea de a vedea de undeva de sus ( adio OOP si MFC .. stuff ). Ce IDE ? ce RAD ?!
Incercati totusi sa scrieti un driver competitiv in C(orice aroma ). O sa doara rezultatul. Sau sa programezi ptr un anume cip si sa n-ai decat 50-100 mnemonice ASM ( LD..MOv ar depinde de arhitectura ). Atunci mai vb.. "fanaticilor". Eu de ex. una fac la servici ( Fox, Delphi ) dar alta acasa ,lucrez la greu cu VirtualMachine-ul de ex. ptr. a fii cu procu in RealMode sau daca nu am un zgarci de comp fara os, si il bootez de pe floapa si are un loader si un os foarte radical. Ceva gen forth la care am lucrat un timp destul de mare. Acum insa am un mini-os al meu ( gen Z80 care stie ce-i cu el ) ce are un imens 400 Kb. Dar .. astea sunt personalizate. Un programator trebuie sa se adapteze repede. N-are rost sa stii ASM sau alte raritati de genu, daca cererea e de V.Net , D8 sau alte mari afinitati. Acum fiecare cu ideea lui. Un programator e bun in felul lui. Unic.

#24
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Posted 27 February 2004 - 11:57

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Quote

Originally posted by Panthera
Incercati totusi sa scrieti un driver competitiv in C(orice aroma ). O sa doara rezultatul.

Am incercat si am reusit. De fapt, toate driverele Windows-ului sunt scrise in C. Este chiar respinsa ideea de ASM pentru driverele Windows din motive de portabilitate.

Numai bine,
maniaku

#25
Panthera

Posted 11 March 2004 - 17:20

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Se poate mai "fanatic" de atat ?!? Rezultatul are [blur]2k[/blur] ( ptr care stie cu ce se mananca ). :cool:

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#26
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Posted 11 March 2004 - 17:22

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Se poate mai mic, dar n-am timp sa fac un RLE decompressor. Oricum , vreau sa vad competitie ( pe w32 nu dos16 fiindca asa se poate in 19 bytes ).

#27
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Posted 11 March 2004 - 23:22

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Numele mai potrivit pt programatorii fanatici ar finerds.
Din pacate pt nerds made in RO satisfactia materiala e << decit in alte tari. Asadar, merita sa-ti distrugi ochii si viata pt asa ceva?

#28
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Posted 12 March 2004 - 08:34

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Dap. :)

#29
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Posted 12 March 2004 - 08:59

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Why? To what purpose?

#30
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Posted 12 March 2004 - 09:52

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@Masterboy

Probabil masochism :P :D. Si eu sunt programator, dar ma limitez la in ami face treaba. Mai sunt si alte lucruri frumoase pe lumea asta: prietena, cars, prieteni etc etc

Anyway, acesti "nerds" de obicei sunt niste personaje complexate, care in trecut probabil nu au excelat in nimic (nu ca ar fi fost incapabili), si acuma daca stiu si ei DEC -> HEX, spart un program/site, limbaj masina sau mai stiu eu ce, se cred foarte tari, foarte importanti, foarte "utili" pentru ei dar si pentru societate. King of the hill...

:cya:

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Posted 13 March 2004 - 15:06

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driverx are dreptate!:) Corect, potzi fii cat de fanatic vrei, daca nu ramane nimic de pe urma ta, sau comunitatea nu se alege cu nimic... degeaba. A fii fanatic de dragul ca esti fanatic si ce tare esti tu, geniul neintzeles, nu mai tzine!:) Mai sunt si altele pe lumea asta... prietena, masina, catzelu, pisica, rasarutil de soare, etc!:) DriverX.... mi-ai luat-o innainte!:) Trebuia sa zic... sa nu te superi da sunt de acord 100%

#32
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Posted 13 March 2004 - 23:18

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Originally posted by driverx
@Masterboy

Probabil masochism :P :D. Si eu sunt programator, dar ma limitez la in ami face treaba. Mai sunt si alte lucruri frumoase pe lumea asta: prietena, cars, prieteni etc etc

Anyway, acesti "nerds" de obicei sunt niste personaje complexate, care in trecut probabil nu au excelat in nimic (nu ca ar fi fost incapabili), si acuma daca stiu si ei DEC -> HEX, spart un program/site, limbaj masina sau mai stiu eu ce, se cred foarte tari, foarte importanti, foarte "utili" pentru ei dar si pentru societate. King of the hill...

:cya:

Aiurea... viata e viata ... sunt un tip normal...familie, nevasta, casa, copil...nu am si nici nu am avut vre-un complex de nerealizat...dimpotriva viata mea este destul de plina ...etc...insa daca am o zi in care sa nu pot sa scriu cateva linii de cod...tanjesc...nu pot sa spun ...e vorba de hobby ... si chiar daca nu sunt in fata calculatorului tot gandesc un algoritm, o modalitate de a rezolva o problema...nu inseamna ca daca privesc ... o pictura de calitate sau altceva nu incerc sa o inteleg... pur si simplu cred ca la fel se intampla si cu microbistii...asteapta returul sau stiu eu ce altceva ...e vorba de pasiune care este o chestie foarte umana ... nu e vorba de performanta de dragul performantei ...de la un anumit nivel realizezi ca totul este interminabil...cred ca sunt complexati doar vei ce vor sa para meseriasii lui peshte si in realitate...Un profesionist isi cunoaste perfect limitele si stie chiar si ceea ce nu stie ...doar ca el poate spune "inca"...
Subscriu la ideea ca si in momentul in care o sa scriem programe prin comanda vocala ... iar programele vor fi de genul :
-la 10.00 speli rufele
-la 12.30 deschizi usa pentru copil
-la 11.00...etc
ei bine si atunci nu te poti numi fanatic daca nu stii ce inseamna:
ALT-180 ALT-09 ALT-186 ALT-09 ALT-01 ALT-205 ! ALT-195 ALT 32 Salut$
(prietenii stiu ce e)

#33
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Posted 15 March 2004 - 10:10

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Originally posted by Masterboy
Numele mai potrivit pt programatorii fanatici ar finerds.
Din pacate pt nerds made in RO satisfactia materiala e << decit in alte tari. Asadar, merita sa-ti distrugi ochii si viata pt asa ceva?

Pai atunci hai sa vindem ziare la standul de la coltu' blocului. Asa vom fi siguri ca vom fi stresati cit mai putin si, in plus, vom avea timp sa mergem in fiecare seara la discoteca !!!

     That would be sooo coool, right ?

Ca sa ajungi sus, in orice domeniu ai "activa",  e nevoie de "dedication, passion and skills."

Referitor la satisfactia materiala.....hmm.....se merita sa muncesti 40 ani in aceeasi fabrica pe un salariu de kkt,  apoi sa iesi la pensie  si sa n-ai bani nici macar sa-ti platesti intretinerea ?

Eu personal cred ca e ok sa inveti cit mai mult avind insa grija sa nu sari  capra :D :D .Mai exista si alte chestii pe lumea asta in afara de calculator.....

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Nu a zis nimeni de mers zilnic la discoteca ci sa realizezi ca mai exista si alte lucruri importante in viata in afara statului 24x24 in fata computerelor... Tocmai asta nu realizeaza the nerds.

#35
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Posted 15 March 2004 - 10:49

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Right.

@Sibu. Nu m-ai inteles deloc. Nu zice nimeni ca esti nerds ca esti programator si faci programe, chiar toata ziua. Important e ca realizezi ceva. La o adica totul se reduce la trai. Si tu asa iti asiguri traiul. Si eu la fel. Tot din asta traiesc.

Dar noi vorbim de nerds, oameni care nu prea vad soarele, care is preocupati doar de lumea lor marunta din calculatoare, si macar de aceasta lume a lor nu ar fi ceva retras si adevarata lume a calculatoarelor. Ei de obicei, nu realizeaza nimica, doar desfac calculatoare, fac virusi, tuneaza calculatoare, scrie ceva programel in ASM si e tare excitat desi altu putea face programu ala in 5 secunde in limbaj de nivel inalt.

:cya:

#36
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Posted 15 March 2004 - 12:10

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@Driverx : De ce unii isi "tuneaza" masinile si stau cate 8-10 ore in rampa si plini de ulei cunoscand fiecare componenta de masina de la 20 de marci diferite, pentru ce ?? De ce sta cineva in fiecare zi in gradina cu stropitoarea in mana si cu grebla ? De ce stie toate numele speciilor pe acre le-a sadit? De ce se sta pe balta ore intregi de cu noaptea in cap ??.....
Iti zic eu de ce : PASIUNE si Hobby ceva ce se pare ca tu nu ai...

Esti multumit cu programul de 9 - 5 si de o munca fara prea mari sadisfactii (nimic rau in asta, nu ma intelege gresit).

Faptul ca scrii in ASM ce scrie altul in VC++ nu inseamna ca nu poti sa scrii si tu ci inseamna ca vrei sa vezi daca poti si fara prea mult ajutor.

Aici e vorba de sadisfactie, pasiune, munca multa, fericire/frustrare adica ceea ce face din tine un competitor.

DA !! exista si lume exterioara exista si flori si bere, prieteni si masini si gagici si gratare si filme si muzica si pictura. DA ele exista pentru tine/mine ca sa ne imbogateasca viata. Si eu ma bucur de ele si sunt bucuros ca gasesc inspiratie si relaxare in ele.

Fanatismul unui programator este ceea ce tu nu poti avea pt programare (CRED), >PASIUNE .

Si nu am avut nici un esec sau ceva neimpliniri majore in viata (nu ma ascund in programare)

Mie imi place ce fac , probabil tie nu.

Oricum, am un Hobby si ala e calculatorul, viata personala e viata personala.

Ps: @Moartea trebuie sa mai ai si docurile sau sursele instalate in /src altfel comanda nu face mai nimic :P

Astept comentarii, va pup pe toti! :)

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#19 moartea Posted 20 January 2004 - 16:11

#20 Mirror Face Posted 21 January 2004 - 01:40

#21 Seven[BERE] Posted 21 January 2004 - 08:56

#22 moartea Posted 21 January 2004 - 10:51

#23 Panthera Posted 26 February 2004 - 15:49

#24 maniaku Posted 27 February 2004 - 11:57

#25 Panthera Posted 11 March 2004 - 17:20

#26 Panthera Posted 11 March 2004 - 17:22

#27 Masterboy Posted 11 March 2004 - 23:22

#28 Panthera Posted 12 March 2004 - 08:34

#29 Masterboy Posted 12 March 2004 - 08:59

#30 driverx Posted 12 March 2004 - 09:52

#31 device Posted 13 March 2004 - 15:06

#32 Sibu Posted 13 March 2004 - 23:18

#33 KLAMATH Posted 15 March 2004 - 10:10

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#19
moartea

Posted 20 January 2004 - 16:11

#20
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Posted 21 January 2004 - 01:40

#21
Seven[BERE]

Posted 21 January 2004 - 08:56

#22
moartea

Posted 21 January 2004 - 10:51

#23
Panthera

Posted 26 February 2004 - 15:49

#24
maniaku

Posted 27 February 2004 - 11:57

#25
Panthera

Posted 11 March 2004 - 17:20

#26
Panthera

Posted 11 March 2004 - 17:22

#27
Masterboy

Posted 11 March 2004 - 23:22

#28
Panthera

Posted 12 March 2004 - 08:34

#29
Masterboy

Posted 12 March 2004 - 08:59

#30
driverx

Posted 12 March 2004 - 09:52

#31
device

Posted 13 March 2004 - 15:06

#32
Sibu

Posted 13 March 2004 - 23:18

#33
KLAMATH

Posted 15 March 2004 - 10:10

#34
Masterboy

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#35
driverx

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#36
ctek

Posted 15 March 2004 - 12:10