Asistenta in rampa - VW

Arg, nici tu nu ai inteles cum sta treaba cu butonul de frina si Auto Hold
Lectura in limba romana, de la pagina 65/120.
http://www.scribd.co...al-de-Utilizare
La  decodarea seriei nu zice nimic de AH, doar ca are ESP (este buton)

ABS nu se dezactiveaza niciodata de la un buton pus de fabrica. Dovada ca din cauza de siguranta si securitate au scos butoanele si au pus ESC cum ziceam ca are Jetta.
Patineaza de 2 3 ori si stie ca esti pe teren naspa. Probat in ultimele 2 ierni, la munte si e ok.

Edited by Evergreen, 28 March 2019 - 21:11.

 Evergreen, on 28 martie 2019 - 16:28, said:

din ce scrie in manual, nu se intampla automat asa ceva:
"If you drive with wet brakes, for example after driving through water, after heavy rainfall or after washing the vehicle, the braking effect may be reduced
as the brake discs will be wet, or possibly frozen (in winter). The brakes must be dried as quickly as possible by careful braking at higher speed. Please
ensure that no following vehicle and no other road user is put at risk as a result of this action"

pe zapada cu asr off m-am dus taras, iar cu asr-ul activat a barait de zor abs-ul.

 unbrutus, on 28 martie 2019 - 21:02, said:

incurci avertizarea cu masurile de siguranta luate de fabricant.

Edited by arg, 28 March 2019 - 21:09.

ASR e controlul tractiunii si te ajuta sa pleci fara sa patineze roata pe mediu umed, gheata...
ESP iti controleaza traiectoria cind faci testul elanului, intri prea tare pe curbe sau treci de pe uscat pe umed
ABS parca nu as spune ce face.... desi...

urat face cand se activeaza asr-ul pe zapada.

Edited by arg, 28 March 2019 - 21:12.

hai ca cica de autohold nu aveam dreptul sa vorbesc aici, dar acum vorbim de ABS

Electronic stabilisation programme (ESP)
The ESP helps to reduce the risk of skidding and to improve driving stability by braking individual wheels in certain driving situations. Critical driving
situations, such as over or understeering of the vehicle or wheel spin, are recognised by the ESP. Through targeted braking or by a reduction of the
engine torque, the system supports the stabilisation process for the vehicle.
ESP has its limitations. It is important to realise that ESP cannot overcome the laws of physics. ESP will not be able to assist in every situation that the
driver is confronted with. For example, ESP will not be able to assist every time that there is a sudden change in the road surface quality. If a section of the
dry road is suddenly covered with water, mud or snow, ESP will not be able to assist in the same manner as on a dry road. If the vehicle aquaplanes
(drives on a film of water rather than on the road surface), ESP will not be able to assist in steering the vehicle as the contact to the road surface has been
interrupted and the vehicle can consequently no longer be steered or braked. When driving at speed through bends, particularly on stretches of road with
many bends, the ESP will not always be able to process complicated driving situations as effectively as at lower speeds.
Always adapt your speed and driving style to suit visibility, weather, road and traffic conditions. ESP cannot defy the laws of motion, improve the power
output available, or keep the vehicle on the road if undue care and attention on the part of the driver causes the vehicle to leave the road. Instead, ESP
improves the possibility of regaining control of the vehicle and, in extreme driving situations on the road, it helps make the vehicle continue in the desired
direction by utilising the driver's steering. If the vehicle is driving at a speed that takes the vehicle off the road before the ESP can provide any kind of
support, the ESP will not be able to assist in any way.
The systems ABS, BAS, TCS and EDL are integrated in the ESP. The ESP is always switched on. In certain situations when the traction achieved is not
sufficient, TCS can be switched off by pressing the ASR (TCS) button


Antilock
brake system (ABS)
The ABS prevents the wheels from locking when the brakes are applied up until the point where the vehicle is nearly stationary and assists the driver in
steering the vehicle and keeping it under control. This means that the vehicle is less likely to spin, even when the brakes are depressed fully:
Depress and hold the brake pedal with force. Do not take your foot off the brake pedal or reduce the force on the brake pedal!
Do not pump the brake pedal or reduce the pressure on the brake pedal!
Steer the vehicle while the brake pedal is fully depressed.
The ABS will switch off when the brake pedal is released or if the pressure on the brake pedal is reduced.
If the ABS is taking corrective action, you will be aware of a pulsing movement in the brake pedal and some noise. However, ABS will not necessarily
guarantee shorter braking distances in all conditions. The braking distance could even be longer if you brake on gravel or on fresh snow covering an icy or
slippery surface.


Brake assist system (BAS)
The brake assist system can help to reduce the braking distance. The brake assist system reinforces brake pressure when the driver depresses the brake
pedal quickly in an emergency situation. As a result, full braking power is made accessible very quickly, brake pressure is increased and the braking
distance reduced. In this way, the ABS is activated more quickly and more effectively.


Traction Control System (TCS)
The TCS reduces the engine output if wheel spin occurs and adapts the output to suit road surface conditions. TCS helps the car to start moving,
accelerate and climb gradients in unfavourable road conditions.
The TCS can be switched on and off manually → Switching the TCS on and off .


Electronic differential lock (EDL and XDL)
The EDL is available for normal driving on straight roads. EDL brakes the wheel which has lost traction and distributes the driving force to the other drive
wheels. To prevent the disc brake of the braked wheel from overheating, the EDL cuts out automatically if subjected to excessive loads. The EDL will
switch on again automatically when the brake has cooled down.
The XDL function is an extension of the electronic differential lock. The XDL does not respond to traction control, but rather to the reduction of load on the
inside front wheel when driving through a bend at high speed. XDL will apply the brake on the inside front wheel to prevent it from losing traction. This will
improve traction, helping the vehicle to remain in the required lane longer.

acu te rugam frumos sa ne si traduci in romana.

 arg, on 28 martie 2019 - 22:31, said:

nu vorbi in numele altora. Vezi in spate chiar in acest topic multe citate in engleza

 arg, on 28 martie 2019 - 22:31, said:

poti aduce si tu contributia ta, copy-paste in google translate apoi copy-paste aici.
Incearca, daca nu ai mai facut, o sa te mire ce simplu este.

mai nebrutus, chiar nu poti explica cu ale tale cuvinte.
ca asa demontrezi ca ai si inteles.

ce sa traduc? ca astea sunt povesti vechi.
culmea e ca pe unele le-am si testat pe masina.

Edited by arg, 28 March 2019 - 23:01.

stalcirea numelui unui coleg e interzisa de regulament.

ti-am dat explicatiile ca ai zis ca nu stii ce inseamna toate, sau ca am crezut ca te ajut.
ti-am dat o solutie si pt limba engleza.

acum vii si imi spui ca de fapt nu suporti citatele si vrei sa ti le rescrie cineva? Tu esti ok? sau trolezi doar?

 arg, on 28 martie 2019 - 22:58, said:

ce e culmea? sau nu trebuie sa caut sensul in cuvintele tale? MAi sus un coleg zicea ca nu stie ce face ABS... tu nu stiai nu stiu ce... le-am pus pe toate.
ce naiba tot nu iti convine?

vreu dar sa vad daca ai inteles ceva din ceea ce ai postat.

deci topicul este despre autoholdul de la VW.... ei uite ca vw are propiile lui denumiri si intelesuri ale lor.

Edited by arg, 28 March 2019 - 23:24.

 arg, on 28 martie 2019 - 21:08, said:

apropo, ASR ul sau TCS ul nu te ajuta la cum te duci pe zapada, ci la cum pleci pe zapada... vezi de ce e util sa fi citit ce ti s-a postat mai sus in loc sa te lansezi in discutii sterile?

 arg, on 28 martie 2019 - 23:22, said:

aici pot sa iti spun doar sa nu mai trolezi!

mai omule la golf e un singur buton pe care scrie asr off dar butonul ala face mai multe (sau cel putin asa zice in manualul in limba romana).

din cate imi aduc aminte daca apesi scurt se opreste asr-ul iar daca ti 3secunde opreste esp-ul

Edited by arg, 28 March 2019 - 23:36.

 arg, on 28 martie 2019 - 23:27, said:

asa e si la Passat. Mai omule. And your point is??

 arg, on 28 martie 2019 - 23:27, said:

hai cu citatul! hai ca poti. Uite cum se face, citez eu din manualul de passat in engleza:
The systems ABS, BAS, TCS and EDL are integrated in the ESP. The ESP is always switched on. In certain situations when the traction achieved is not
sufficient, TCS can be switched off by pressing the ASR (TCS) button → Fig. 147 . Always ensure that ASR (TCS) is switched back on again once
traction is sufficient.

 Evergreen, on 28 martie 2019 - 16:28, said:

Iti dau dreptate in tot ceea ceai scris, mai puti la faptul ca , daca te ridici de pe scaun si ai in continuare centura pusa, nu se intampla nimic, deoarece NU exsita senzor de presiune in scaunul soferului, doar la pasager.

Deci: unbrutus: ok

Ca si paranteza: HSA (Hill Start Assist) este numele generic al functiei, destul de folosit. Sunt producatori care vor neaparat numele lor, sau sunt obligati legal sa o faca (vezi discutia ASR / TCS / ESP etc).

PS: arg-ule, tu ai ceva cu ASR: Asociatia de Sudura din Romania.

PPS: cred ca e anti-slip regulator sau asa ceva, este denumire specifica VW, si se refera la sistem gen TCS: nu iti lasa (si nu te lasa) sa se invarta in gol rotile, regland puterea motorului si franele succesiv pe roti in asa fel incat sa poti pleca (mai) usor de pe loc pe suprafete alunecoase (gheata, polei, ulei etc). Ala de te duci taras la frana e ABS dezactivat, si nu stiu daca EU mai permite dezactivarea acestuia la masinile de vreo 10 ani (exceptand operatiunea "siguranta" ).

Referitor la definitiile date de catre unbrutus: sunt cam lungi, e drept, da sunt corecte (cred, nu am stat sa citesc, cred ca stapanesc destul de bine terminologia si intelegerea sistemelor respective )

PS: unii dintre voi sunteti mai tinerei, nu ati prins perioada de SP cand dadeam cu userii de pamant ca scriau numai tampenii (era perioada cu tehnologiile noi de siguranta in floare la noi, insa si foarte multi care erau mai tari ca ABS-ul, mai tari ca ESP-ul, mai tari ca EBD sau EBA - "ce ma, de unde stii tu ca nu am eu suficienta forta sa calc frana?! ").

Cool down!

Edited by Tyby, 29 March 2019 - 08:38.

 arg, on 28 martie 2019 - 20:45, said:

daca ai doar ASR, nu ai ESP.

ASR e la VW, TCS e la Skoda