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Tesla Model S facelift

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La un bidon cu benzina si o petarda inauntru te-ai gandit? Mai ales intr-o zi in care toti ochii sunt pe Tesla.

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Vin si eu cu niste niste copy-paste:

U.S. fire departments responded to an estimated average of 152,300 automobile fires per year in 2006-2010. These fires caused an average of 209 civilian deaths, 764 civilian injuries, and $536 million in direct property damage.
http://www.nationalf...Car-Fire-Safety

About 174,000 vehicle fires were reported in the United States in 2015, the most recent year for which statistics are available from the National Fire Protection Association
https://www.nfpa.org...hicles/Vehicles


Din 2012 si pana azi 15-20 de masini Tesla au luat foc.

O statistica care ne spune ca probabilitatea ca o masina Tesla sa ia foc e de 12 ori mai mica.
https://i.imgur.com/kEuCCYh.png

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https://electrek.co/...ain-suspension/

A venit si upgrade-ul.

Motorul de pe Model 3 care e mai eficient cu 10% => 10% mai mult range.
Din nou introduc standard pack (75 sau 85kwh) cu acelasi motor.
Incarcare rapida 200kw.
Suspensii noi adaptive.

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De mentionat ca datorita eficientei imbunatatite a noilor motoare, autonomia maxima a unui Model S a ajuns la putin peste 600km in ciclul WLTC.

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da eu fac 1000km cu dizalu' meu fara opriri, de ce mi-as lua o masina electrica?

Edited by diabolik213, 24 April 2019 - 17:42.


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Ei, tu ramai la diesel ... aici e vorba de Tesla model S facelift.
Eu ma opresc dupa maaaaaxim 300Km si iau o pauza de macar 20 de minute si acum, fara a conduce o electrica.

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View Postdiabolik213, on 24 aprilie 2019 - 17:41, said:

da eu fac 1000km cu dizalu' meu fara opriri, de ce mi-as lua o masina electrica?
Daca in urmatorii 5-6 ani (sigurat) se dubleaza autonomia 900-1000 km la electrica, renunti la dizal?

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Logic ca nu, el alimentează în 2 minute și e gata de încă 1000km :))

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Motor Trend a facut un test cu noul Model S https://www.motortre...model-s-review/
Pe scurt, cresterea de autonomie a fost vizibila (mai exact de eficienta, bateriile ramanand aceleasi), asta apropo de cei care spuneau ca toate motoarele sunt la fel si nu mai e loc de inovat.

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O alta Tesla s a luat foc in parcare in san francisco. Fanii vor spune ca si aici e pus foc intentionat, ca si la tesla care a luat foc in shanghai? Se pare ca exista o mare problema care pune in pericol oamenii cat si alte masini.

https://www.thedrive...o-garage-report

"Tesla Model S seems to have spontaneously and randomly combusted, this time while parked in a private garage in San Francisco. Local news outlets report that the San Francisco Fire Department responded to a car fire around midnight Thursday evening, on the 1300 block of 26th Avenue near Irvington Street."

"According to the reports, the Model S was not plugged in at the time of the incident. When crews arrived to assess the scene, they noticed a considerable amount of smoke emanating from the right rear, though it’s unconfirmed if it was coming from the vehicle's battery.  Fire crews put out the flames, which seemed to be rather contained and didn’t spread to the building, and then removed the Tesla from the garage. They further mitigated the issue by cutting all the main electrical leads in the Model S to prevent any more mishap."

Edited by Torquemada-666, 07 May 2019 - 08:53.


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View PostTorquemada-666, on 07 mai 2019 - 08:51, said:

Se pare ca exista o mare problema care pune in pericol oamenii cat si alte masini.


Stii ca statisticile te contrazic, dar continui sa dezinformezi, nu?
Iti pun 2 poze, apoi sa imi spui in care masina alegi sa fii.

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Nu studiem dinamica accidentelor aici. Nu sunt expert si nici nu ma dau. Dar au cam murit in accidentele cu Tesla si au luat chiar foc.

Deja se intreaba lumea de ce iau asa de mult foc incat se fac statiatici.
Nu oese dine pentru tesla, masina sigura si care nu are carburant care ia foc instantaneu ca benzina sau motorina.
Ingrijorarile au starnit o statistica, iar tesla e aproape tare de procentul masinilor cu carburant inflamabil, fata de nr.de masini vandute.

https://www.google.c...-on-fire-2019-4

"Brown broke it down like this:

From 2011 to 2015, 325 people in the US on average died each year in internal-combustion-engine vehicle fires.
That's out of 263.6 million registered vehicles in the US.
That means there were, on average, about 1.23 fire deaths per million vehicles annually from 2011 to 2015. Most of them, 58%, started with a vehicle collision or overturn.
Tesla has yet to build 1 million total cars, but it has grown its fleet substantially in the past few years. In 2016 it had only 183,000 cars on the road. In February of last year it produced its 300,000th car.
At the start of 2019, Tesla had about 530,000 cars on the road all over the world, the vast majority of those being in the US.
"Thus, if Tesla were an average car, we would have expected 0.23 Tesla fire deaths in 2016, 0.35 in 2017, 0.45 deaths in 2018, and 0.16 deaths in 1Q 2019," Brown wrote. That's a total of 1.19 fire deaths over three years.
Tragically, that isn't what has been happening.

Last month, a Davie, Florida, man died after his Tesla crashed into a tree and ignited. First responders were reportedly not able to open the car's extendable door handles."

Siguranta la incendiu in masina viitorului tesla, e aproape cat la masinile cu combustibili inflamabili, si au mai luat de curand foc din senin inca 2. Grav.

Edited by Torquemada-666, 07 May 2019 - 11:32.


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Cam cati din cei care au avut accident cu o Tesla au murit?
Cam cate Tesla au luat foc procentual vorbind?

Compara asta cu masinile termice.

Edited by ro_explorer, 07 May 2019 - 11:24.


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Uute procentele explorer. Le.au facut deoarece a devenit imperios necesar, pt.ca se ingrijoreaza lumea.

Uite comparatia. E sah mat pt.tesla, mai ales ca nici nu se apropie de sutele de milioane de masini vandute. Cand vor avea mai multe, procentul va creste.

Edited by Torquemada-666, 07 May 2019 - 11:31.


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Unde e comparatia? Tesla e o marca foarte populara si e normal sa se faca stire cand se intampla ceva (orice) cu o masina  Tesla. Cati ar fi dat click pe stire daca era "VW Passat din 2013 ia foc" ?

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View PostTorquemada-666, on 07 mai 2019 - 11:21, said:

Siguranta la incendiu in masina viitorului Tesla, e aproape cat la masinile cu combustibili inflamabili, [...]. Grav.
De ce ar fi asta grav? Te astepti la miracole? Tesla e doar o masina cu alt fel de propulsie si cu un AI mult mai evoluat decat cele termice.

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Pai Tesla nu are combustibil lichid extrem de inflamabil si totusi ia foc. Siguranta bateriilor tesla si a masinii, nu e cu nimic mai buna, decat la ICE.

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Are litiu care e inflamabil.
Siguranta e mai buna prin prisma numarului redus de accidente datorat AI-ului avansat. Observa termenul "redus", nu "zero".

Daca nu ar fi litiu ar fi hidrogen, care si el e inflamabil. Daca nu e hidrogen e reactor cu fuziune care poate face gauri negre Posted Image ...
Nu exista nimic absolut sigur cand vine vorba de impact la viteza mare.

Edited by ro_explorer, 07 May 2019 - 11:39.


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