Windows 7 RTM

#55
add2005

Posted 27 July 2009 - 14:37

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eiffel, on 27th July 2009, 15:25, said:

Wrong + Wrong Again.
MSDN sau Technet Plus nu au tangenta cu modul de licentiere Volume Licensing sau cum ii zici tu "Corporate".
Volume Licensing presupune o licenta ptr un nr N de calculatoare si se cumpara direct de la Microsoft. Primesti o coala de hartie A4 cu multe elemente de siguranta si este specificat pe ea nr de calculatoare pe care se poate face instalarea si serialul - acelasi ptr toate. PLUS CD/DVD de instalare ptr softul achizitionat, si este specificata si o perioada de valabilitate ptr suport din partea Microsoft. Nu are mai nimic de a face cu descarcarea online.

MSDN sau TechNet Plus Subscribers - pot fi clienti atat persoane fizice cat si companii. Pretul e acelasi. Nu se face diferenta intre cele 2. Poti descarca - prioritar cam toate softurile produse de Microsoft ( poti plati suplimentar si atunci primesti si mediul de stocare prin posta - CD/DVD ). Instalarile sunt limitate la un nr de calculatoare - de obicei 3, ptr aceeasi serie primita. Plus ca dupa expirarea subscriptiei nu mai poti folosi softurile ( depinde si de licentele fiecarui soft ). In principiu ele sunt oferite pentru " testare" pe perioada subscriptiei. Diferentele sunt in principiu legate de faptul ca MSDN se adreseaza mai mult dezvoltatorilor de software , iar TechNet Plus catre utilizatorii de software.

Se face diferenta la pret in functie de cantitate. Dau un exemplu de o firma cu care am eu tangenta. Nu au treaba cu dezvoltarile de soft, se ocupa de asigurari, si cumpara licente VL de la microsoft pentru ca au multe calculatoare. Au un cont MSDN comun(pentru toate filialele) de unde descarca administratorii de retea kiturile. Au mai multe CDKey-uri pentru acelasi produs. Imi aduc aminte cum intr-o zi o ramas fara activari, avea 20 de cd keyuri si trebuia sa gaseasca un cd key care mai accepta activari(Romanian work). Acolo totul ii la comun. Inclusiv serverele is de win. si aveau si servere locale care faceau un fel de cache la baza de date.

Nu stiu ce ai vazut tu, poate pun si un screenshot daca ma lasa si-ti arat cum is listate zeci de key-uri pentru fiecare produs in parte.

Is foarte multe companii mari care downloadeaza kiturile.
Si cand zic corporate ma refer la companii mari(companii cu filiale multe).

LE: sa fac si o adaugare, deobicei firmele mari care folosesc softuri Microsoft folosesc in mare parte cam toate produsele MS adresate biroului. De acolo downloadeaza cam tot.

In principal ca sa nu degenereze discutia, ce am vrut eu sa zic, ii ca, companiile mari au ceva parteneriate cu Microsoft pentru a cumpara la pachet tot ce au nevoie, asta le da dreptul de a testa orice soft microsoft, iar softurile ajung la administratorii de retele prin MSDN.

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 15:23

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Probabil ca din cauza ca firma respectiva are prea multe filiale imprastiate si le e mai comod sa ia kiturile prin MSDN, poate si ptr ca acolo sunt actualizate in permananta ( de ex cand apare un SP ). In mod normal primesti ptr un produs doar ce am zis mai sus - un singur kit si o singura hartie cu licenta, si poate le e mai greu sa le distribuie la toate filialele.

Nu e nevoie sa faci screenshot, ptr ca stiu cum sunt listate. Am avut si eu cont MSDN.

Pretul este evident diferit in functie de cantitate ptr licentele VL dar asta nu are tangenta directa cu MSDN-ul. Subscriptia MSDN nu este licenta Corporate.
De aici poti vedea ca o licenta obtinuta prin TechNet sau MSDN nu poate fi folosita decat limitat, doar ptr diverse teste:
http://msdn.microsof...338(en-us).aspx

Chiar in prima casuta iti spune clar ca nu poti folosi licenta in "Productie". E ilegal deci sa o instalezi pe un calculator al unei firme avand un scop direct productiv.

Cel mai probabil compania respectiva are ATASAT la Contractul de Volume Licensing un cont MSDN Subscriber:
http://msdn.microsof...867(en-us).aspx

Asta inseamna ca exista un contract de VL direct cu Microsoft si beneficiaza de acea hartie de care am pomenit mai sus, doar managementul softului se face prin MSDN.

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 18:48

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shadow1989, on 27th July 2009, 11:39, said:

am instalat si eu w7 build 7600 si merge de 10 ori mai bine decat vista

Puiule , daca il cumparai original si nu instalai toate prostiile de jocuri cu N crack-uri nu mai ziceai asa ceva acum ! Asta in cazaul in care PC-ul tau are 2 GB Ram 256 Video si 2 GHz > .

Tu esti acum atacat de virusul "reinstall" ce te infecteaza cu o perforanta foarte buna in comparatie cu Vista care era si el bonalv de virusul "crack" si "neintretinerea pc-ului"

Nu incerca sa dai replica , toti de aici mai in domeniu te-au catalogat imediat cand ai zis " win7 merge de 10x mai bine" ! Windows 7 merge putin mai bine ....ma repet daca ai un PC pe masura .

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 19:07

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Si este adevarat ca licenta de la Windows Vista Business merge la Windows 7 Professional ? Mi-a mai spus si mie cineva.

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 19:10

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OClaudiu, on 27th July 2009, 20:07, said:

Si este adevarat ca licenta de la Windows Vista Business merge la Windows 7 Professional ? Mi-a mai spus si mie cineva.

doar daca ii cumparat dupa 26 iunie, se poate face upgrade. in rest nu

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#60
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Posted 27 July 2009 - 19:17

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alinnc sta o perioada pe bara pentru activator/cracks & stuff. Cine urmeaza ?!

p.s.: nu mai am rabdare pana pe 6 ! :ph34r:

Un wallpaper ce-mi place mai nou, legat de Windows 7

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Edited by crysty2k5, 27 July 2009 - 19:19.

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 19:24

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Crysty2k5, tot pe 6 apare si pe MSDNAA ?

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 19:28

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OClaudiu, on 27th July 2009, 20:24, said:

Crysty2k5, tot pe 6 apare si pe MSDNAA ?

Zvonurile asa zic. trebuie sa avem rabdare pana pe 6 si vedem

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 19:42

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crysty2k5, on 27th July 2009, 20:17, said:

p.s.: nu mai am rabdare pana pe 6 ! :ph34r:

Sincer,nici eu :rolleyes:

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Asa o sa arate stickerele pe PC-uri si laptop-uri

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 21:01

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crysty2k5, on 27th July 2009, 21:14, said:

Asa o sa arate stickerele pe PC-uri si laptop-uri

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Parca aparusera mai demult ...

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#66
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Posted 27 July 2009 - 22:23

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Vreau si eu pe tusa

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De ce sunteti atat de nerabdatori? Pe mine tot RC-ul ma va bucura. A mai incercat cineva sa activeze? Mai merge oare? Eu oricum, am o imagine cu el activat, deci pana in martie ar trebui sa fie ok, sper...asta daca o sa il mai sterg ca poate se balareste.

Oricum, eu nu inteleg o chestie: de ce oare, uneori, Network and Sharing, imi apar 2 retele locale. Cand se intampla asta, bye-bye conexiune internet. Trebuie dezactivata placa de retea, si reactivata! Ciudat!

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 22:34

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Walt Mossberg's Guide to Surviving Windows 7.
Funny.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 00:27

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aWp_viTal, on 27th July 2009, 19:48, said:

Puiule , daca il cumparai original si nu instalai toate prostiile de jocuri cu N crack-uri nu mai ziceai asa ceva acum ! Asta in cazaul in care PC-ul tau are 2 GB Ram 256 Video si 2 GHz > .

Tu esti acum atacat de virusul "reinstall" ce te infecteaza cu o perforanta foarte buna in comparatie cu Vista care era si el bonalv de virusul "crack" si "neintretinerea pc-ului"

Nu incerca sa dai replica , toti de aici mai in domeniu te-au catalogat imediat cand ai zis " win7 merge de 10x mai bine" ! Windows 7 merge putin mai bine ....ma repet daca ai un PC pe masura .

nu aveam niciun virus cand aveam vista,am scanat calculatorul cu 4 antivirusi inainte de formatare, am 2gb rami ,256 mb video , 1.8ghz. PS am windows vista business edition original

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 02:06

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@crysty2k5: si mie-mi place, e printre cele mai reusite, pentru ca majoritatea sunt modificari ale celor de pe Vista. Sa-nteleg ca cel care circula peste tot nu e RTM-ul adevarat, ci cel de pe 6 va fi ? (sper ca postul meu are legatura cu pirateria)

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 07:33

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Acum am primit mail de la MS:

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With general availability rapidly approaching, make sure you don't miss special offers and other launch-related news like details about community launch events in your area. A great way to keep up with what's going on is to sign up for one of our free newsletters. Not only will you get the scoop on the Windows 7 launch, you'll get useful information throughout the year.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 11:19

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Pot sa intreb si eu ceva ?

Mie mi-au pus pe calc Windows 7 Evaluation Copy Build 7100. Toate discutiile astea cu buid-urile ma inebunesc.... Ca a aparut finalul ca nu a aparut, ca ...draci. Ce pot face. Nu vreau sa descarc 7600 ptr 32 biti de pe surse malitioase si de neincredere, singurul pe care il accept este Microsoft. Mai am niste zile (10) pana la expirarea celor 30... Trebuie sa activez. Activez cu ce ?. Vorbesc de windows 7, sau ma intorc la vechiul si stabilul xp, uitat pare-se...

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 11:22

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Cu key-urile de la microsoft.com/windows7

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aWp_viTal

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add2005

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#61
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#63
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#64
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Kakashi-Hatake

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#66
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