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View Postpunkt, on Apr 7 2009, 07:14, said:

ce faci gopule?! te tii de prostii?! :D
Ce nu ti-a convenit la articolul postat?

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View PostThe_Gopo, on Apr 7 2009, 17:04, said:

Ce nu ti-a convenit la articolul postat?
hai gopule, citeste regulamentul si lasa prostiile. -_-

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Poate imi spui exact care punct din regulament a fost violat.

Mai exact, cu ce te deranjeaza postarea acestui articol: http://www.dodjit.co...cle.aspx?id=403  
Dangerous Myths
Saturday, April 04, 2009
By Jennifer Barry

In March, I started reading a new rush of positive news headlines about U.S. real estate.  According to the U.S. Census Bureau, new home sales increased 4.7% in February in comparison to the January revised figures. This was the biggest leap since 2003. MDA Dataquick reported existing home and condominium sales jumped 43% year-over-year. Mortgage applications also rose 32.2% in the third week of March.

However, not all news was good, as median house prices fell 15.5% year-over-year. Most home loans were initiated to refinance mortgages, not to buy real estate. New home sales hit their lowest number since tracking started in 1963, down 41.1% from February 2008. The 4.7% increase is a dubious figure, as the Census Bureau admits this statistic has a margin of error of 18.3%. In effect, the numbers could be up 23% or down 13.6%, it?s impossible to say.
Even if new homes were easier to sell last month, one month doesn?t make a trend. New home sales have plunged at a frightening rate, as buyers are incentivized to purchase much cheaper existing homes, especially those in foreclosure. History indicates new homes will bottom first, relatively early in the cycle. This doesn?t mean prices have stopped falling, as the U.S. has more than 12 months inventory of unsold residences, a 36 year high. In fact, in my neighborhood builders are still constructing condos even with so many units unsold because they have already secured the loan. Whether they repay it or not is another question.

Unfortunately, I fear that many people will be encouraged by the sunny headlines and jump into the housing market too soon. Many potential homeowners are sick of waiting, and want validation of their emotional decision to purchase. I?ve talked to many acquaintances who refuse to believe that housing could take several years to rebound.
Frankly, the media has called a bottom several times since 2006, and they are misinterpreting the data again. After missing the giant bubble to begin with, their judgement and motives are both suspect. The real estate industry is an important advertiser, and few want to think that the economy is in a depression.

Myth Busting

It?s not surprising that people wish to buy a house. In the United States, homeownership implies success, stability, and adult responsibility. Owning your residence gives you more control over your environment than renting, plus increased privacy and tax savings. When prices are rising, building equity through real estate makes sense for many people. However, in a housing crash, marketing techniques used to sell homes can convince families to make a catastrophic financial decision. I debunk the top housing myths below:

1. Real estate is a great long-term investment. Some investors made fortunes during the housing bubble, flipping condos for a quick profit. However, this kind of high-risk speculation requires liquidity and excellent timing. Those who failed to exit before the bust are facing bankruptcy and foreclosure. Most people who bought homes in 2004 or later are now ?underwater,? owing tens of thousands of dollars more than their property is worth.

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In contrast with homes, gold has been a great investment this decade. The median home cost 605 ounces of gold in 2000, but would require just 218 today, demonstrating that precious metals have risen during the housing crash.
Even homeowners willing to hold real estate for many years will not see a fat profit, and may not have their house appreciate at all. Looking at the last major housing correction of 1990 for guidance, the S&P/Case-Shiller Index shows that the market didn?t truly recover until 1996. I expect the unwinding of this housing bubble will take longer, due to the severity of the economic crisis and the record number of foreclosures predicted by the adjustable rate mortgage data. Even over a thirty year period, Fidelity researchers found that housing just barely outperformed the Consumer Price Index, lagging stocks and bonds.

Your home price may never recover in your lifetime. In the 1926 Miami real estate bubble, it took 80 years to recoup an investment in nominal terms, not adjusted for inflation!

2. Homeownership seems more expensive, but it?s cheaper once you calculate the tax benefits. It?s true that mortgage interest and property taxes can be deducted from your U.S. income tax bill. Using an online calculator, I estimated that buying a house with a $150,000 mortgage would save over $5,000 per year in taxes, if I itemized my deductions.

With the new stimulus plan, Congress passed a first time homebuyer credit which can be applied to either your 2008 or 2009 taxes, but the property must be purchased this calendar year. It totals 10% of the house price with a maximum of $8,000.

However, there are some preconditions. Families must remain in the home at least three years, and it must be a primary residence. The borrower cannot have owned a home in the last three years. The credit is also applied on a sliding scale, so it helps lower income citizens more. Singles earning more than $75,000 or married couples earning over $150,000 are totally ineligible.

Before you run out and buy a house, determine if you would actually benefit from the tax credits on a long-term basis. Your savings may be excellent the first year, but subsequent years will show a much smaller discount. If you have to sell the home soon due to a move or job loss, the IRS will demand repayment of the credit. If you are in a market like Las Vegas with steeply plunging real estate prices (down 33% year-over-year), it does you no good to save $14,000 on your taxes next year but lose $20,000 in equity.

3. Purchasing a home builds equity, which is a form of savings. This only works if real estate prices are stable or rising, and you steadily pay down your mortgage. If prices fall, you can achieve negative equity, and you owe the lender money even after you sell your house. Even if you have equity saved, you can lose it if you suffer a financial setback like unemployment. You may not be able to sell your home fast enough in this difficult market. If your bank seizes your house for nonpayment, the lender keeps all that equity.

4. Buying is cheaper than renting. I have seen some news stories claiming this, but frequently their methodology is flawed. I have owned two houses in the past, and I know there are a number of hidden costs real estate agents don?t include when calculating your monthly expenses. In addition to the mortgage, property taxes can be substantial. Most people must pay homeowners? association or condominium fees. Yards are expensive, and you must pay for landscaping or buy the tools and materials to do the work yourself. In addition, you should have savings to fix the items that regularly need repair like fences and driveways. In an apartment, renters can ask for new appliances and paint when necessary, but homeowners bear these costs themselves. Kitchens and bathrooms periodically need replacement due to leaks and heavy wear, but few property owners plan for these costs. Of course, you can neglect maintenance but that will be reflected in the price when you attempt to sell your house.

Don?t be fooled that housing is a bargain just because it?s ?on sale.? It may be cheaper, but historically, real estate is still tremendously overpriced. For over two decades, the ratio between the median home price and median household income was 2.8. Based on the latest government figures, the ratio is now a stratospheric 4. Wages were based on 2007 statistics, so income is probably lower today after the sharp spike in unemployment. Add in the wealth destruction effect from home equity losses, constriction of credit, and a shaky job market and you have a public who is disinclined to pile on additional mortgage debt.

So how can you tell if buying a home is a good deal? A traditional metric is that the house price should be about 100 times rent. Unfortunately, this is not even remotely close to current market prices for most Americans. Another tool to evaluate your area - as all real estate is local - is this handy calculator

{http://www.nytimes.c...et&oref=slogin} which tells you how long you will have to wait for homeownership to save more money than renting. Be sure to click on ?Advanced Settings? so you can add in all your expenses, like realtor commissions and renovation costs. However, potential buyers should weigh the risk that their equity could disappear if home values drop.

5. Only college students and losers rent. My husband and I have professional careers, so many acquaintances are surprised when they find out we rent. They are even more astonished when we tell them that we owned a house, but we sold it in March 2006 to avoid the housing bust.

During the subprime mortgage boom, almost everyone could get a loan. The common assumption is that renters must be broke or otherwise undesirable or they would own a home. Another misconception is that houses are nice places to live, but rentals are trashy, and no place for children. The truth is, many beautiful homes are available for rent, and some apartments are roomier and more luxurious than houses. Realtors played up the snob appeal of homeownership because it helped them earn commissions. Buy real estate if it makes financial sense for you, not because you want to impress the neighbors.

Nevertheless, the rising rate of foreclosures means that renters should take some precautions. If you are not renting from a large property management company, be wary of signing a lease with a speculator stuck with a house that she or he can?t sell. You don?t want to rent from these individuals, as they may get foreclosed on and you may be evicted with little notice. To avoid becoming the victim of fraud, check your local deed records to make sure that your landlord is the registered owner and is not in foreclosure. In addition, check the tax rolls to see if the owner is delinquent. If he or she bought the house in the past five years, that?s a huge red flag. The landlord may pocket your rent money instead of paying on the loan.

6. The government will fix the housing mess. For almost two years, the federal government has promised to help homeowners avoid foreclosure. As the economic crisis deepened, much was debated but little concrete help was extended. Last summer, Congress passed HOPE for Homeowners to great fanfare. This bill was supposed to spend up to $300 billion and assist up to 400,000 families. Instead, this voluntary program has been a colossal failure, as 752 homeowners applied and only one foreclosure was prevented. Most lenders refused to participate, as the terms included forgiving part of the mortgage. Banks would have to write down the value of their loan portfolio in an environment where capital was evaporating.

President Obama?s newest initiative, the Homeowner Affordability and Stability Plan (HASP), would appropriate $75 billion to reduce monthly payments by lowering interest rates or extending loan terms. Even if HASP is more successful than HOPE, I question the wisdom of keeping families in overpriced real estate they can?t afford. Most attempts to modify mortgages have still ended in foreclosure, only the borrower spent more time futilely making payments. It would be better for most homeowners to go into bankruptcy now rather than suffer for years to service a burdensome loan for no economic benefit.

The Administration?s plan seems to be another back door subsidy to financial institutions, rather than a reasoned attempt to aid distressed borrowers. The banks can continue to earn income off these toxic mortgages which should have resulted in huge losses. The U.S. government has already spent trillions bailing out corporations from Fannie Mae to AIG. The rationale is that the financial system must be stabilized so that banks can make loans again, but why should taxpayers give these corporations money and hope they will lend it back at interest?

In reality, sending every homeowner a check would be more sensible than the current plan. According to U.S. Global Investors, just $1 trillion would be enough to buy all of the single-family and multi-family residences in the state of Texas. Instead, yet-unborn generations are on the hook for the tremendous government borrowing to fund the bailouts, and the children of today are unlikely to be able to afford a house in 20 years.

Purchasing real estate is an important decision, with a large financial impact. It may be the right move for you. However, it?s essential to make your decision based on facts, rather than emotion or propaganda from the real estate industry. While I hope the market turns around soon, the data doesn?t support that view. Until it does, I will continue to rent.


Jennifer writes Global Asset Strategist in the adventure capitalist style. Her primary areas of analysis have included the metals markets (both precious and base), energy, housing, and structural stress within the financial system. Jennifer's background makes her uniquely qualified to assess market sentiment and investor psychology. She produces original commentary that is both insightful enough for financial professionals to use, while remaining clear enough for the average investor to deeply grasp. At the same time, her research achieves a depth and focus rarely found in other investment newsletters.


La link-ul de baza se gasesc si niste grafice.

Edited by The_Gopo, 07 April 2009 - 17:30.


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bai ai nu va mai certati ca acum inchid postul:)) :lol:
am fost azi shi am vazut mansarda...este in sectorul 4 intre Piata sudului si Aparatorii patriei, bloc din 82 (parca), sufrageria este mare dar este impartita cu bucataria, 70mp, grup sanitar si la parter (cum ar veni)...la etaj 2 camere (una dormitor, una birou) + baia, scara interioara, bloc curat, termopane, gresie, faianta, centrala proprie, balcon, 53000euro.
al doilea apartament pe care l-am vazut era pe partea cu mall-ul ala de se construieste, avea 60mp, cu apometre, fara alte imbunatatiri, cu loc de parcare platit, vroia 62000 euro, dar baia arata ca la ala la confort 2 de la fantani adica naspa rau de tot....
maine avem program de vizionat pe la nicolae grigorescu....

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v-ati dat la fund....bine....
eu am mai vazut asta un apartament....2 camere, metrou nicolae grigorescu, 58mp, bloc 80, fara imbunatiri, 8/10, apometre+repartitoare, pret 56500......

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View PostCalculici, on Apr 8 2009, 21:28, said:

v-ati dat la fund....bine....
eu am mai vazut asta un apartament....2 camere, metrou nicolae grigorescu, 58mp, bloc 80, fara imbunatiri, 8/10, apometre+repartitoare, pret 56500......

Spune Calculici, spune, ca eu te urmaresc  :) Tot astept sa mai scada, da ceva mai consistent. De aceea astept sa confirmi si tu din teren ce viseaza astia prin ziare. :D

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View PostCalculici, on Apr 1 2009, 23:31, said:

cu apartamentul nu ne-am hotarat inca...dar ne-am hotarat cu creditul. O sa-l facem la BCR, e rata cea mai mica la momentul asta...aplicat de exemplu la apartamentul din rahova pe 15 ani cu 25% avans vine rata de 350euro.....

Ai grija cum iti faci calculele cu BCR-ul. Creditul e bun, cel putin cel cu dobanda fixa adevarata, dar ai grija ca va trebui sa ai un aport de 40% din valoarea apartamentului. Mai precis din cifra reiesita din raportul de evaluare.

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cu creditul daca nu o sa citesc fiecare foicica din el...problema este exact ca si la mine cu vanzatorul...eu ii zic iti dau 50.000 si el zice nu-mi convine, asa si banca zice astea sunt conditiile, il vrei bine, nu-l vrei iar bine, pe noi nu ne intereseaza....

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Am citit ceva din topic-ul pe care l-ai creat. Pot sa-ti vin in ajutor cu un tool foarte interesant. E vorba de evolutia preturilor la apartamentele noi care te poate ajuta sa iti faci o idee despre cum au evoluat preturile si daca este un moment potrivit pentru o achizitie imobiliara.

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Geniale graficele astea. Am ales zona ultracentrala si presto mi-au aparut graficele pt apartamente cu 1,2,3,4 camere. Ceea ce e amuzant este faptul ca apartamentele cu 1, 3 si 4 camere costau 0 Euro in Ianuarie 2009, apoi in Februarie au avut o crestere brusca (cele de 4 camere=335.000E, 3camere=270.500E, 1 camera=116.400E), apoi in Martie au scazut (4 camere=204.000E, 3 camere=158.000, 1camera=78.400E) iar in Aprilie avem aceleasi preturi ca si in Martie.
Deci mi se par de o penibilitate crunta graficele astea. Nu stiu dupa ce formule cu integrale triple de volum au calculat, dar mai bine ma duceam la mama omida sa imi spuna preturile.

P.S.: Puteam in ianuarie sa cumpar cu 0 euro o gramada de apartamente.

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ai spamuit tot forumul. cand ai sa incetezi sa promovezi idiotenia aia de site?

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foarte frumos si dragut...cam dai cu spam-ul in noi...dar in fine nu sunt eu administrator.....
vroiam sa va mai spun de un apartament de 3 camere, Alexandru Obregia, la piata covansa, 70mp, termopane, loc de parcare, renovat recent, pret 65000euro usor negociabil.....arata bine....

stie careva care e diferenta in monolit, beton, bca, etc....ca m-au innebunit astia cu bloc din bca, bloc din monolit etc...

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se pare ca nu va mai intereseaza, dar oricum cred ca si cautarea mea a ajuns la un sfarsit...apartament 2 camere, piata delfinului, 10 din 11, gresie, faianta, termopane, apometre, repartitoare, usa metalica, aer conditionat, sufragerie alungita, bloc din 79, pret 55000 euro.....

ce parere aveti?

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View PostCalculici, on Apr 10 2009, 20:13, said:

se pare ca nu va mai intereseaza, dar oricum cred ca si cautarea mea a ajuns la un sfarsit...apartament 2 camere, piata delfinului, 10 din 11, gresie, faianta, termopane, apometre, repartitoare, usa metalica, aer conditionat, sufragerie alungita, bloc din 79, pret 55000 euro.....

ce parere aveti?

nu-i cam mult? ce suprafata are?

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Mi se pare cam mult, e totusi cartierul pantelimon. Recunosc ca n-am fost in zona aceea niciodata si nu stiu cum arata.
Depinde ce suprafata are, daca iti plac imbunatatirile pe care le are...
De curios, de unde ai gasit pe respectivul proprietar ?

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este prin agentie, nu am intrebat cati metri patrati are, este in blocul cu BRD-ul cel mare, pentru lumea care stie......

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View PostCalculici, on Apr 10 2009, 23:02, said:

este prin agentie, nu am intrebat cati metri patrati are, este in blocul cu BRD-ul cel mare, pentru lumea care stie......

pai suprafata este  foarte importanta. nu intele cum nu te-a interesat si totusi spui mai sus ca esti aproape sigur ca optezi ptr. apartamentul respectiv... fara sa stii suprafata??? :huh:

Edited by radumiki, 10 April 2009 - 22:07.


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am uitat era mult prea ok apartamentul...o sa aflu maine

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