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#19
undercoverbrother

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sedanul beton, hatchul urat.

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Fiesta + Mondeo = Love. Astra J e mult mai sobra si mai eleganta, desi nu asta ar trebui sa fie o compacta. Totusi, mie Ford-urile noi mi se par prea "argintii".

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nu prea-mi plac farurile stil chevrolet epica + alaturarea grilelor triunghi cu grila centrala si proiectoarele rotunde.

Imi place lateralul , spatele si bordul pe care-l consider `revolutie` la fel ca la focus1 in 1998.

Ca hatch noua fiesta imi place mai mult decat acest focus , dar poate in realitate masina va arata mai bine.

Edited by cosmin_miu, 12 January 2010 - 20:47.


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Design exterior cinetic si un interior aproape perfect. Motoare EcoBoost SCTi si Duratorq-TDCi pentru doar cele 2 versiuni de caroserie prezentate ( hatchback si sedan). Remarcabil e ca Ford a hotarat sa nu existe diferente de echipare intre versiunile vandute in diferite tari ,in cadrul unei strategii mondiale de reducere a costurilor.

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arata ciudat rau in spate hatchback`ul iar spoilerul fata e cam ciudat in rest este ok

dar parca prefer actualul focus :D

Edited by Volvo, 13 January 2010 - 15:21.


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Mda, se pare ca vor avea cel putin un 1,6 l benzina, cu injectie directa si turbo, cel mai probabil de 180 CP.

Asa mai vii de-acasa !

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M-am chiorit azi mai atent l-a Focus si nu imi plac urmatoarele lucruri:
- la hatchback blocurile optice spate sunt exagerat de mari
- la sedan, nu imi place linia de la capacul portbagajului care este vizibila din lateral, cocoasa aia asemanatoare cu cea de la BMW seria 5
- nu stiu daca interiorul nu este obositor, parca e prea multa tehnologie "stralucitoare" acolo pe bord, nu stiu cum sa spun! Aici e posibil sa fiu subiectiv si sa tina mai mult de obisnuinta !

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Da bine aripa din fata cu gurile de aerisire in stilul conceptului Iosis.
Varianta sedan arata foarte bine, mai bine decat hatchul.
Interiorul e cam incarcat dar mi se pare Ok.
Este o masina placuta si cred ca va avea succes. ;)

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http://www.newfordfocusmedia.com/ un site oficial Ford unde se gasesc niste pdf-uri.
(portiunea de scroll e de rahat, sper ca nu vor face chestii d-astea si la masina)

http://www.newfordfo...s_techspecs.pdf

Preliminary Vehicle Specifications
Four-Door
Length 178.7 in / 4538 mm
Width 71.9 in / 1826 mm
Height 58.1 in / 1477 mm
Wheelbase 104.2 in / 2648 mm

Five-Door
Length 178.6 in / 4536 mm
Width 71.9 in / 1826 mm
Height 57.9 in / 1472 mm
Wheelbase 104.2 in / 2648 mm

( 5usi practic cat sedanu? hmm... )

http://www.newfordfo...ngdynamics_.pdf

DETROIT, Jan. 11, 2010 – Great driving quality will be at the heart of the next-generation
Ford Focus making its debut at the 2010 North American International Auto Show.
Delivering a car that is responsive and rewarding to drive – and extends the Focus
reputation for leadership in driving quality – has been a critical objective for Ford’s global
brand DNA.

In developing the new Focus, Ford called upon the expertise of a vehicle dynamics team
that uses a unique approach to create the optimum balance of steering, handling and ride.
During a 15-year period, this team has been responsible for a series of products that are
widely recognized as setting the standard for driving dynamics in their segments.

“We set a clear objective to deliver products that are great fun to drive but also offer a
relaxed, refined and comfortable driving experience,” said Kessing.

This DNA was then expressed as a series of technical specifications, so that each
characteristic could be measured and tested. For example, the precision and responsiveness
of the steering is reflected by more than 20 different metrics that capture the efforts and
responses felt by the driver during a range of conditions, from high-speed cornering to
parking maneuvers.

“...Fine- tuning by dynamics specialists, together with an obsessive attention to detail, makes all the
difference between a car that is good to drive and one that is great to drive.”

"The Ford approach is centered on creating the maximum time for detailed tuning of the
steering and suspension systems, to ensure that each part is fully optimized in the vehicle. "

(gata ca v-am tampit cu atata dynamics, cine vrea mai mult citeste in pdf. oricum, pazea astra & golf & co regele dinamicii se intoarce :P )
Oricum, ca si la precedentele generatii vorbim de DNA, adica fara optionale gen ids-uri si butoane sport. e acolo, la toate si oricand.

http://www.newfordfo...nformation_.pdf

High-strength steels are used extensively in the next-generation Focus body shell. High-
strength steels comprise 55 percent of the body shell, and more than 26 percent of the
vehicle’s structure is formed from ultra-high-strength and Boron steels – significantly more
than any other Ford product. These advanced materials help the structure meet the most
stringent crash legislation across world markets, while minimizing the vehicle’s weight.

(ca tot se ingrijora cineva de greutatea crescuta :) )

The new Focus will make significant strides in reducing cabin noise, promising
cabin environment. This refinement complements the fresh new interior design
craftsmanship levels to create a premium feel akin to larger vehicles.  

(actualul mk2 european are niste probleme cu antifonarea)


All global customers will benefit from the same quality of dynamic performance in the new
Focus. Identical chassis and suspension architecture is being used for all markets, except
for minor regional tuning differences, such as local tire specifications.

(apropo de ultima observatie de la pdf-ul precedent)

Ford’s European driving dynamics specialists have also enhanced cornering stability and
agility with the introduction of an advanced Dynamic Cornering Control system, which
uses “torque vectoring” techniques to transfer power between the drive wheels to deliver
reduced understeer, improved traction and better turn-in.

(din niste comentarii de pe net - cica e o chestie care se regasea doar pe tractiunea integrala, si adaptata in pemiera pt fwd??)

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LE : m-am uitat la poze si aproape sigur au gresit lungimea la hatch. halal...

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 Tomkaten, on 13th January 2010, 15:59, said:

Mda, se pare ca vor avea cel putin un 1,6 l benzina, cu injectie directa si turbo, cel mai probabil de 180 CP.

Asa mai vii de-acasa !

spre deosebire de astra j , motorul 1.6 turbo de la Ford va avea doar 150 cp ( 180 e la astra)

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Interiorul arata a casetofon cu leduri pawasonic de prin anii `90. Ma interb cum o sa arate varianta de 10-11000E  :deadtongue:

Nu inteleg de ce nu se uita la interiorul unui BMW spre ex. - atat de curat si logic este totul acolo fara sa de in kitsch sau sa incerce sa-ti ia ochi cu rahaturi de beculete care mai de care mai colorate.

In rest parca nu mai are nimic din ce avea primul focus sau chiar si al doilea.

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"de ce l-au facut ca celelalte, de ce nu au avut originalitate ?"
"de ce l-au facut kitsch, de nu l-au facut ca celelalte" ?
etc...

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Herrmann says that Ford also placed a lot of emphasis on improving comfort levels. “Quietness gives a premium feel,” he says. To that end, the Focus team concentrated on reducing road, tire, and engine noise, vibration, and harshness. Wind noise at 80 mph is said to be lower than in a Honda Accord or a Toyota Camry.
( http://www.caranddri...ocus-auto_shows )

ramane de vazut cum vor fi cele aduse in romania.

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Ford isn't talking mileage numbers for the next-gen Focus yet, but it clearly is a priority for the new car. With Chevrolet aiming for 40+ mpg on the highway for the the Cruze, Ford will surely be trying to match it. To that end, designers have also focused a lot on functional aerodynamics in addition to just aesthetic styling. One of the more interesting features are thermostatically controlled shutters behind the grille. At higher speeds when more air naturally flows through the radiator, the shutters automatically close and force air around the sides of the car.

Cica chestia cu shutters ar fi noua in clasa asta.

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Oare pastreaza suspensia independenta pe puntea spate?

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 ncristi, on 21st January 2010, 08:37, said:

Interiorul arata a casetofon cu leduri pawasonic de prin anii `90. Ma interb cum o sa arate varianta de 10-11000E :deadtongue:

Nu inteleg de ce nu se uita la interiorul unui BMW spre ex. - atat de curat si logic este totul acolo fara sa de in kitsch sau sa incerce sa-ti ia ochi cu rahaturi de beculete care mai de care mai colorate.

In rest parca nu mai are nimic din ce avea primul focus sau chiar si al doilea.

Masina nu se adreseaza aceleiasi clientele ca in cazul BMW, ci este pentru cei care nu au bani de aruncat si vor o masina suficient de capabila pentru mersul zilnic. Focus a fost, cel putin pe piata americana, o masina foarte ieftina in varianta de baza.
"Beculetele" acelea (probabil ca ati ramas cu imaginea recenta a pomului de iarna si faceti asociatii...) exista doar in imaginatia dvs, e vorba in primul rand de imagini pe ecranul color tactil care dau informatii despre diferitele sisteme, iar in mod normal nu toate iconuruile sunt luminate in acelasi timp, sprte deosebire de celelalte 2 ecrane mici acea afiseaza constant anumite date. Sistemul (MyFord) este asemanator cu cele existente deja pe masini mai scumpe, si faptul ca se gaseste acum pe o masina mai ieftina indica clar trendul. Ca optionale, masina are si sistem de franare cand "simte" radarul (sistemul e legal in alte parti), poate "citi" unele indicatoare rutiere si de asemenea are ca optional si sistemul de parcare automata pentru bonde.
Ne place sau nu, tehnica avanseaza. Cui nu-i place, are inca la dispozitie modelul vechi de Focus .

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 rares_sub, on 20th January 2010, 22:39, said:

spre deosebire de astra j , motorul 1.6 turbo de la Ford va avea doar 150 cp ( 180 e la astra)

New Ford Focus 2010 Europe Gasoline engines:

New Ford Focus 2010 Europe – new turbocharged EcoBoost engines:

1.0l —- 89HP

1.0l —- 108HP

1.6l —- 148HP

1.6l — 178HP

New Ford Focus 2010 Europe Diesel engines:

1.6l TDCi —128HP

2.0l ——— 168HP

2.0l ——— 197HP

Asta am gasit eu. Se pare ca va fi si de 150 CP, si de 180. Iar la diesel... 200 CP dintr-un diesel de 2 litri ? Slaba speranta. Poate din ala de 2,2.

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1l si 108hp :) ?  Foarte interesant. Motorizarile reprezinta evolutii clare :)

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Ca design, imi place foarte mult cu exceptia stopurilor prea lungi pe lateral de la hatchback, si a liniei ce se continua intre stopuri la sedan (impreuna cu bara, parca are 2 cocoase).
Interiorul are prea mult plastic lucios iar grilele de ventilatie sunt intr-o forma ciudata. Oricum, per ansamblu imi place, motorizarile "suna" bine, merge de un upgrade.  :naughty:

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