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alltheway99

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salutare,

am scos la vanzare un aparat foto si am fost contactat de un personaj dubios,
la un prim google am dat de altii care au fost pacaliti.

unde se pot reclama asemenea tentative ?

dati un google dupa 'Kareldy James'
o sa gasiti mai forumuri din slovacia



si acum povestea,
ma abordeaza cu

Mrs Kareldy James <[email protected]>
Hello seller,  Am Mrs kareldy From canada.. i want to buy your item... let me know the conditions of the item , i will like to offer you sum of 450Euros for this item.  am paying you via bank transfer you can also include your bank details
Reply me back ASAP



dupa care eu intind vorba

hi,
item is in perfect condition, like new, no scratch or signs of use
are you in Canada now ?
do you have any contacts in Romania, what is the shipments address


si apoi

now that i think better, address doesn't matter,
your offer is much more that I can accept for God's sake, 400EUR is more than enough

just tell me your address to look for a courier that reaches you



reply -urile seamana mult cu ce am gasit pe net,
si -am gandit sa vad daca sunt niste scripturi sau e un gigi care tot insista


si se pare ca ii un gigi

Mrs Kareldy James <[email protected]>

Hello....Thanks for your message Am Mrs Kareldy From Canada and i want you to know that i really appreciate your quick response...I want to buy this item for my daughter in Nigeria ..  i am sending the item to my daughter over  there in Nigeria  ....am ready to pay sum of  450euros for this item plus the shipment and  for the postage .. it It's due to the urgency that my daughter needed this item ok...so ready to pay you any amount  for this item also  the shipment cost  ...
So, Below is the shipping address to calculate the shipment cost Local Post office to her address in Nigeria

I want you to get back to me with your full bank details like below,so that i can make the payment asap...

Bank Name...
Bank Address...
Account Number...
Account Holders Name...
Swift code...
Bic ....
Total cost plus the postage cost ...

However this is my daughter address to calculate the shipment cost

Name  : Adisat Yussuf
Address : No 2 oju oja apete
City : Ibadan
State : Oyo
Zip Code : 234-02
Phone number : +2347070199854
Country : Nigeria

All above details of your bank are needed for me to make an immediate payment...

Hope to read back from you..

Best regards



ca sa ii dau cat de multa incredere, continui cu intrebari naive

hi,
your doughter will like it,
are you sure that adress is correct, I would not like to send it to someone else ?



dar imi pierd vremea ... ca nu aflu nimic nou,
insista pt detaliile bancare

Mrs Kareldy James <[email protected]>
all details are ok.. so send me your bank details so that payment will be made as soon as posible today repl me back with your bank details

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asa si ?
ti-a cerut exact acele date necesare ca sa faca plata
contul, titularul, swiftul, numele si adresa bancii

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Din Canada poate plati prin Paypal.
Dar eu cred ca e un nigerian tepar.

Apropo...
Odata intreb de "shipping cost to Romania" pe un englez si mi se adreseaza cu "Nigerian scammer" :(

Edited by ssilvviu, 24 June 2009 - 11:42.


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eu n-am zis ca n-ar fi teapa.
am zis doar ca nu i-a cerut niciun 'detaliu' bancar nerelevant.

spune-i sa iti faca intai plata, dupa care livrezi produsul la adresa pe care ti-o da

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 spare-me, on 24th June 2009, 12:33, said:

asa si ?
ti-a cerut exact acele date necesare ca sa faca plata
contul, titularul, swiftul, numele si adresa bancii

din semi-traducerea forum -urilor din slovaca nu mi-am dat seama exact cum functioneaza pana la urma smecheria,
urmeaza faza cu track -ing number -ul pachetului

dar si asa,
tu iti dai datele daca ti le cere cineva intr-un mail ?

:nonobad:

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nu are ce sa faca cu ele in afara de a face o plata.

si atunci la ce naiba mai vrei sa vinzi ala ?
daca zic eu ca ti-l cumpar acum, nu-mi dai datele alea sa-ti fac plata ?

fara ele nu are cum plati, prin banca. daca zici ca-l vinzi si nu i le dai...nu stiu ce rost mai are intrebarea "tu ai da datele alea pe mail?"

Edited by spare-me, 24 June 2009 - 11:45.


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 alltheway99, on 24th June 2009, 12:29, said:

unde se pot reclama asemenea tentative ?
Nu mai bine il ignori?

Deocamdata nu e nici o tentativa, doar daca intri in jocul lui o sa aflii cum vrea sa te tzepuiasca.

 alltheway99, on 24th June 2009, 12:43, said:

din semi-traducerea forum -urilor din slovaca nu mi-am dat seama exact cum functioneaza pana la urma smecheria,
urmeaza faza cu track -ing number -ul pachetului
Ce tracking? Doar n-o sa-i trimiti coletul pana nu au ajuns banii.

Edited by don_dannielo, 24 June 2009 - 11:48.


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 don_dannielo, on 24th June 2009, 12:46, said:

Nu mai bine il ignori?

Deocamdata nu e nici o tentativa, doar daca intri in jocul lui o sa aflii cum vrea sa te tzepuiasca.

nu am deloc de gand sa ii dau datele mele personale

cu datele astea poate sa faca ce face orice magazin online,
imi blocheaza suma 2 zile, dupa care si-o ia,

nu stiu daca vreau sa imi mai pierd vremea cu el,
un cont fictiv pot sa ii dau, si tracking numebr -ul de la altii
dar ... iara cu ce folos

principalul scop cu care am creat thread -ul a fost sa afle si altii la un google de asemenea 'initiative'
si daca exista un loc unde pot sa il reclam oficial ... sa il reclam

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 alltheway99, on 24th June 2009, 12:53, said:

cu datele astea poate sa faca ce face orice magazin online,
imi blocheaza suma 2 zile, dupa care si-o ia,
Tu vorbesti de plata prin card. Ala nu ti-a cerut cardul.

Cu numarul contului n-are ce sa faca decat sa-ti bage bani in el.

Edited by don_dannielo, 24 June 2009 - 11:59.


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 don_dannielo, on 24th June 2009, 12:57, said:

Tu vorbesti de plata prin card. Ala nu ti-a cerut cardul.

Cu numarul contului n-are ce sa faca decat sa-ti bage bani in el.

aveti dreptate, IBAN -uri si nre de cont sunt peste tot (facturi .. sau)

oricum nu am de gand sa ii dau nimic astuia,
eventual niste replici care sa ii spuna sa isi vada de treaba lui

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Se pare ca nu vrei sa vinzi...

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Nu, nu vrea sa ia teapa.

Ala spera sa mearga si la noi sistemul american, cec trimis pe adresa bancii completat in numele tau echivalent cu wire in numele tau, pana la descoperirea faptului ca nu e acoperit. Din pacate pentru el, nu merge, dar daca ar fi mers, ai fi vazut pentru o scurta perioada banii in cont, el ti-ar fi trimis evident o suma mult mai mare si ar fi cerut un procent din diferenta inapoi, dupa care banca s-ar fi prins si ar fi trebuit sa returnezi toata suma.

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 sebulbus, on 24th June 2009, 14:46, said:

Nu, nu vrea sa ia teapa.

Ala spera sa mearga si la noi sistemul american, cec trimis pe adresa bancii completat in numele tau echivalent cu wire in numele tau, pana la descoperirea faptului ca nu e acoperit. Din pacate pentru el, nu merge, dar daca ar fi mers, ai fi vazut pentru o scurta perioada banii in cont, el ti-ar fi trimis evident o suma mult mai mare si ar fi cerut un procent din diferenta inapoi, dupa care banca s-ar fi prins si ar fi trebuit sa returnezi toata suma.

multumesc frumos de explicatie,
ii un scenariu si cred ca ai dreptate, desi nu stiu detaliile unui wire transfer



 C.F.S., on 24th June 2009, 14:40, said:

Se pare ca nu vrei sa vinzi...

reply -ul tau se 'asorteaza' de minune cu semnatura :-)

Edited by alltheway99, 24 June 2009 - 14:04.


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Hello seller,  Am Mrs kareldy From canada.. i want to buy your item... let me know the conditions of the item , also let me know the cost of the item in EURO..am paying you via bank transfer you can also include your bank details  
Reply me back ASAP  


Hello.
The camera is in good condition, aprox 15k shots taken. it has just one problem, the flashlight will not pop up very often, but when it does it works just fine. may be a mechanical problem, i did not try to fix it as i do not use flash. The lens has no fungus or oil on it, minor scratches from normal use on the case, the glass is fine though. I have all the original accessories, user manual, neckstrap, charger, battery, plus a 4 m wired remote, an extra m42 to canon adapter for the lens and 3 macro rings.
As for the price,  350 euro could be a reasonable amount, let me know what you think. I will send you some pictures later today.




Hello....Thanks for your message Am Mrs Kareldy From Canada and i want
you  to know that i really appreciate your quick response...I want to
buy this  item for my daughter in Nigeria ..  i am sending the item to
my daughter  over  there in Nigeria  ....am ready to pay sum of
600EURO for this item  plus the shipment  .. It's due to the urgency
that my daughter needed this  item ok...so ready to pay you any amount
for this item also  the shipment
cost  ...

So, Below is the shipping address to calculate the shipment cost DHL
GLOBAL SERVICE e to her address in Nigeria

I want you to get back to me with your full bank details like below,so
that  i can make the payment asap...

Bank Name...
Bank Address...
Account Number...
Account Holders Name...
Swift code...
Bic ....
Total cost plus the postage cost ...

However this is my daughter address to calculate the shipment cost
Name  : Adisat Yussuf
Address : No 2 oju oja apete
City : Ibadan
State : Oyo
Zip Code : 234-02
Phone number : +2347070199854
Country : Nigeria

All above details of your bank are needed for me to make an immediate
payment...

Hope to read back from you..

Best regards




before sending you my bank details, i am just curious, how did you fing my add? And do you speak romanian?



Thanks for the mail, my friend introduce Roman site to me that they are selling good camera and i translate with Google translation ok.. so i want you to get back to me with the total cost also with your bank details so that payment will be made as soon as possible ok

i will be waiting for your message

Thanks a lot..


Evident, nu aveam de gand sa ii trimit datele.

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Eu tot nu inteleg ce ti-a cerut omul asta de zici ca e teapa. Probabil ca e dar ...banca nr iban si swiftul eu le pun si pe factura. Sa imi ia bani din cont cu datele astea nu pot. Care e problema?

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Mi se par corecte cele scrise pana acum pe thread:
- nimic din ce s-a discutat pana acum via email nu reprezinta nici frauda, nici inselaciune
- daca vrei sa vinzi, minimul de informatii ce trebuie oferite il reprezinta numele si codul IBAN. Cu aceste doua informatii, nu-ti poate sustrage nimeni nimic. Nici macar spam nu-ti poate face

Edited by vax, 26 June 2009 - 14:43.


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Ia aruncati o privire aici:

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The use of checks in a scam hinges on a US law (and common practice in other countries) concerning checks: when an account holder presents a check for deposit or to cash, the bank must (or in other countries, usually) make the funds available to the account holder within 1-5 business days, regardless of how long it actually takes for the check to clear and funds to be transferred from the issuing bank.[27] The check clearing process normally takes 7–10 days and can in fact take up to a month when dealing with foreign banks. The time between the funds appearing as available to the account holder and the check clearing is known as the "float", during which time the bank could technically be said to have floated a loan to the account holder to be covered with the funds from the bank clearing the check.

The check given to the victim is typically counterfeit but drawn on a real account with real funds in it. With a piece of software like QuickBooks and/or pre-printed blank check stock, using the correct banking information, the scammer can easily print a check that is absolutely genuine-looking, passes all counterfeit tests, and may even clear the paying account if the account information is accurate and the funds are available. However, whether it clears or not, it eventually becomes apparent either to the bank or the account holder that the cheque is a forgery. This can be as little as three days after the funds are available if the bank supposedly covering the check discovers the check information is invalid, or it could take months for a business or individual to notice the fraudulent draft on their account. It has been suggested that in some cases the check is genuine - however the fraudster has a friend (or bribes an official) at the paying bank to claim it is a fake weeks or even months later when the physical check arrives back at the paying bank.

Regardless of the amount of time involved, once the cashing bank is alerted that the check is fraudulent, the transaction is reversed and the money removed from the victim's account. In many cases, this puts victims in debt to their banks as the victim has usually sent a large portion of the check by some non-reversible 'wire transfer' means (typically Western Union) to the scammer and, since more uncollected funds have been sent than funds otherwise present in the victim's account, an overdraft results.


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Fratilor este teapa. Dupa ce ii dai datele iti trimite un mail cica Banca de unde a trimis in care iti spune ca iti va vira banii atunci cand vei trimite o copie din actul de shipping. Deci el nu vireaza banii si se alege cu produsul tau.


Your Payment has been Processed Successfully on your  behalf and it remain the final process to Transfer your money into Your Bank Account, but before this we will need the LOCAL POST OFFICE/DHL GLOBAL EXPRESS/EMS AIR MAIL  Tracking Number of the item before we can activate your bank account.
***PLEASE NOTE***
          Your bank account  will be activated with the money immediately you send the shipment details and has been verified.This measure is taken in order to protect both seller and buyer interests and to reduce the occurrence of fraudulent activities.

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