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Natura electrica a Soarelui si Universului

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jet li

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http://science.nasa....1dec_themis.htm
http://www.nasa.gov/...ghts_multi.html

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"The satellites have found evidence for magnetic ropes connecting Earth's upper atmosphere directly to the Sun," says Dave Sibeck, project scientist for the mission at the Goddard Space Flight Center. "We believe that solar wind particles flow in along these ropes, providing energy for geomagnetic storms and auroras."

Sunt cercetatori care sustin ca soarele si intregul univers se bazeaza mai mult pe legi ale electricitatii. Modelul lor explica de ce sub petele solare apare o zona intunecata din interiorul soarelui, si de ce zona din jurul soarelul care se vede in timpul eclipselor - Corona are o temperatura de milioane de grade pe cand la suprafata soarele are doar cateva mii de grade.
Acestea nu pot fi explicate de modelul care spune ca Soarele e un mare reactor nuclear care transforma hidrogenul in heliu.

Nu ma pricep eu prea mult la ce se intampla in soare, dar e interesant de aflat, teoria da o noua infatisare intregului Univers, si se pare ca il face mai simplu , arata ca exista o legatura intre stele si galaxii, modelul de acum - cel gravitational nu reuseste sa explice forma galaxiilor asa ca a venit cu ipoteza "materiei intunecate", care nu poate fi vazuta, reprezinta 90% din masa totala si trebuie sa fie acolo pentru a sustine modelul actual

Documentar :
[ https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/ihVaL-FHUyk?feature=oembed - Pentru incarcare in pagina (embed) Click aici ] - partea despre Soare
http://video.google....7...20374&hl=en

http://www.kronia.co...th/ThotIV01.txt

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The Red Giant Betelgeuse is so huge that if it
were to replace our Sun then Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars and
Jupiter would be engulfed by it. Astronomers recognize that such
stars could swallow planets yet their plasma envelope is so
tenuous that it would not impede the planetary orbits within the
star's atmosphere. However, astronomers believe that any planet
it swallowed would be gradually vaporized by intense heat from
the star's core. But the standard stellar model has to be
seriously fudged to explain Red Giants, their central temperature
turns out to be so low that no known nuclear process can possibly
supply the observed energy output. The electric model, on the
other hand, works seamlessly from Supergiant star to a planet-
sized Brown Dwarf.

Since an electric star is heated externally a planet need not be
destroyed by orbiting beneath its anode glow. In fact life is not
only possible inside the glow of a small brown dwarf, it seems
far more likely than on a planet orbiting outside a star! This is
because the radiant energy arriving on a planet orbiting inside a
glowing sphere is evenly distributed over the entire surface of
the planet.

There are no seasons, no tropics and no ice-caps. A planet does
not have to rotate, its axis can point in any direction and its
orbit can be eccentric. The radiant energy received by the planet
will be strongest at the blue and red ends of the spectrum.
Photosynthesis relies on red light. Sky light would be a pale
purple (the classical "purple dawn of creation"). L-type Brown
Dwarfs have water as a dominant molecule in their spectra, along
with many other biologically important molecules and elements.
Its "children" would accumulate atmospheres and water would mist
down. It is therefore of particular interest that most of the
extra-solar planets discovered are gas giants, several times the
size of Jupiter, orbiting their star extremely closely. It is our
system of distantly orbiting planets that seems the odd one out.
In fact it argues in favor of a galactic traffic accident between
the Sun and a sub-Brown Dwarf like Jupiter or Saturn.

http://www.thesurfac...un.com/blog.htm


Forumul de unde am aflat despre aceasta teorie : http://www.abovetops...hread321444/pg1

Editat de jet li, 18 decembrie 2007 - 13:22.


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m3th0dman

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Conform teoriei de mai sus, stelele ar trăi la nesfârșit, deci nu s-ar mai putea forma găurile negre.
De acolo reise că în centru, soarele ar fi înghețat (sau cu o temperatură foarte mică), dar acolo, datorită gravitațieia are densitatea cea mai mare, deci este imposibil să aibă cea mai mică temperatură.
Modelul standard solar mi se pare mult mai bun decât teoria de mai sus.

Editat de m3th0dman, 19 decembrie 2007 - 23:03.


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jet li

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Modelul care spune ca doar gravitatia lucreaza in cosmos are probleme. Au inventat "dark matter", si au declarat ca nu poate fi vazuta, fara ea galaxiile s-ar imprastia, gravitatia singura nu poate sa le tina la un loc.
Ar trebui sa se uite si la noua teorie, poate nu e toata buna dar vorbeste despre plasma si forte electromagnetice care tin galaxiile intregi, rezolva problema fara "materie intunecata"

http://www.electric-.../darkmatter.htm

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Dutch astronomer Jan Oort first discovered the 'missing matter' problem in the 1930's. By observing the Doppler red-shift values of stars moving near the plane of our galaxy, Oort assumed he could calculate how fast the stars were moving. Since the galaxy was not flying apart, he reasoned that there must be enough matter inside the galaxy such that the central gravitational force was strong enough to keep the stars from escaping, much as the Sun's gravitational pull keeps a planet in its orbit. But when the calculation was made, it turned out that there was not enough mass in the galaxy. And the discrepancy was not small; the galaxy had to be at least twice as massive as the sum of the mass of all its visible components combined. Where was all this missing matter?

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"And all the while astronomers and physicists have refined their dark matter theories without ever getting their hands on a single piece of it.  But where is all of this dark matter? The truth is that after more than 30 years of looking for it, there's still no definitive proof that WIMPs exist or that MACHOs will ever make up more than five percent of the total reserve of missing dark stuff."

Of course, the second possibility mentioned above (that the outer stars rotating around galaxy cores do not obey Newton's Law of Gravity) was thought to be impossible.  But the first alternative - the fanciful notion that 99% of the matter in the universe was invisible - began to be worrisome too.  It was stated that WIMPs and MACHOs were in the category of particle known as "Fabricated Ad hoc Inventions Repeatedly Invoked in Efforts to Defend Untenable Scientific Theories" (FAIRIE DUST).   Even such an august authority as Princeton University cosmologist Jim Peebles has been quoted as saying,

"It's an embarrassment that the dominant forms of matter in the universe are hypothetical..."

Editat de jet li, 20 decembrie 2007 - 11:53.


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Pai galaxiile momentan se cam indeparteaza si pana la aflarea valorii exacte a constantei lui Hubble nici nu stim exact ce au de gand sa faca in urmatoarele miliarde de ani.

Cat despre masa "invizibila", e greu de estimat cat e in realitate. Neutrinii interactioneaza atat de slab (daca se poate spune asa) incat ar trebui un corp de dimensiunea unui sistem solar pentru a-i opri.

Nu am citit tot ce ai postat tu acolo dar, e adevarat ca doar 2 tipuri de interactii fundamentale au distanta de interactie infinita: gravitationala si electromagnetica, cea electromagnetica avand 25 de ordine de marime peste cea gravitationala.

Editat de miromulus, 20 decembrie 2007 - 14:06.


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Mda, bine documentat filmul THUNDERBOLTS OF THE GODS
Deși unele chestii sunt un pic umflate, esența este bine argumentată și explică multe chestii.

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