Africa de Sud - Curcubeul distrus de socialism
#1
Posted 20 July 2017 - 19:20
Hai ca nu aveam nici un topic despre tari din Africa.
Avem despre socialism e drept dar e si greu sa nu ai cand pe unde apare poc si dezastrul. In cazul in care nu stiti situatia actuala e simpla Recesiune: Quote The South African economy moved into recession with the reported decrease of 0,7% in GDP during the first quarter of 2017, following a 0,3% contraction in the fourth quarter of 2016. Crime: http://www.independe...t-a7224176.html Quote South Africa’s murder rate climbs 4.9 per cent to 51 people killed every day The country has previously been labelled the rape capital of the world, with one in four men admitting to having raped someone. Boli https://www.avert.or...ca/south-africa Quote South Africa has the biggest and most high profile HIV epidemic in the world, with an estimated 7 million people living with HIV in 2015. In the same year, there were 380,000 new infections while 180,000 South Africans died from AIDS-related illnesses. Proteste: http://www.bbc.com/n...africa-39526313 Cum naiba sa ajuns aici? O tara care era pe cale sa devina o putere nucleara, care are companii ca Naspers, SABMiller ,Steinhoff, MTN e in pragul dezastrului. Pai motivul ar fi unul singur, o adunatura de socialisti pusi pe revolutii economice si "binefaceri" si egalitate intre rase. La putere din 1994 ANC (African National Congress) , membru al internationalei socialiste a facut tot posibilul ca sa aduca tara la niveul Venezuelei, doamne ce face gelozia asta din oameni. La fel cum Venezuela avea un cretin de analist economic care ne asigura ca totul e bine in persoana lui Weisbrot, asa si Africa de Sud avea un dobitcoc numit Thomas Piketty. Un socialist care militeza pentru egalitate. Dar fata de predecesorul sau, individul (vroiam sa zic jigodia) nu a avut timp sa o stearga cand a fost pus fata in fata cu faptele: https://www.theguard...mandela-lecture Quote “Of course now we are 25 years after the fall of apartheid … [but] inequality is not only still very high in South Africa, but has been rising and in some ways income inequality is even higher today than 20 years ago. This is something we want to better understand,” he told the audience at the University of Johannesburg campus. Acest "conundrum" pe care musiu nu il intelege este realitatea, un lucru extrem de greu de conceput pentru socialisti care au ajuns sa testeze cum ziceam mai devreme socialismul pe lunile lui Jupiter deoarece se pare ca nu functioneaza in prezenta oxigenului si apei. Si cum se manifesta acest socialism in Africa de Sud ne putem da seama usor din modul in care se desfasoara alegerile: http://www.theblaze....alist-policies/ Quote
“I think what led to this problem is that our government in South Africa has been dealing with social grants as a sign of a good government,” Roets explained to TheBlaze. “The [idea that the] more government gives people free stuff, the better the government is or the better the so-called quality of government. They would even go as far as boasting about them.” During election seasons, for example, Roets said the ruling party is known to display billboards along highways citing the number of people reliant on the government’s social grants when they took office contrasted with the number of people reliant on government grants around the time of that election. The greater the number of people who rely on the government, in their view, the better the “quality” of the government. Adica pentru cei ce nu cunosc engleza, in campanie partidul se lauda cu cate persoane traiesc din ajutoarele sociale. Cu cat cifra creste, cu atat mandria e mai mare. Dar economia? http://www.politicsw...-a-failed-state Quote Yet the manufacturing economy has been decimated over the past 20 years by rising costs and unwise labour policies. The domestic consumer confidence index – which drives household spending equivalent to 60% of GDP - is plumbing decade deep lows. Household debt levels have escalated by 30 percentage points over a decade while in recent years secured lending has flattened as unsecured lending levels trebled. Minune minune, normal ca nimeni nu se astepta ca niste politici sociopate sa duca la disparitia sectorului industrial. Care erau aceste masuri? Pai marire a tot ce se putea din pix. Taxe , salarii , concedii ca e treaba privatului sa se descurce. Socialism sau mai curand sclavagism da cand biciul e in mana alora al mai prosti si mai inculti. [ https://s3.postimg.org/uhn1fzukj/sign1.jpg - Pentru incarcare in pagina (embed) Click aici ] Mai apar si voci de genul: http://www.huffingto...mbu_a_21872433/ Titlul spune totul: Jackson Mthembu On The ANC's Land Reform: We Failed, Finish En Klaar O alta tara distrusa, dar mama socialistilor e si ea gravida mereu. Si nu conteaza cate tari sunt distruse cati oameni chinuiti de foame si de boli, intotdeauna o sa existe indivizi manati de ura izvorata din propria neputinta gata sa ii dea in cap si caprei si vecinului si oricarei persoane care are cu 2 bani mai mult ca el. Edited by Jammalan-the-Prophet, 20 July 2017 - 19:22. |
#2
Posted 20 July 2017 - 19:25
Eu cred ca daca se respecta proprietatea privata, nu existau atatea probleme si procese ale istoriei.
Socialistii se revolta ca bogatii au prea mult, dar socialistii nu inteleg ca acesti bogati au proprietatea privata, si saracii nu au nici un drept sa se atinga de proprietatea privata. Si eu am mai scris posturi despre acest subiect, dar pt socialisti e greu de inteles dreptul suveran al proprietatii private. Edited by PlatonX, 20 July 2017 - 19:26. |
#3
Posted 20 July 2017 - 19:28
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#4
Posted 20 July 2017 - 19:43
Problema nu e socialismul acolo, problema sunt negrii, ca sunt destule tari africane care nu-s socialiste si sunt foarte inapoiate. Cat timp era apartheidul si albii era la putere, lucrurile erau OK, dupa ce s-au bagat negrii s-a imputit treaba.
Edited by Memeito, 20 July 2017 - 19:45. |
#5
Posted 20 July 2017 - 19:52
Deci sa intelg ca socialismul nu e compatibil cu rasa neagra.
Nici cu populatia latino. Sau asiatica. Cu apa, oxigenul, gravitatia si soarele. Pai mai, daca pe astia ai mai saraci nu a reusit socialismul sa ii salveze de la dezastru atunci cine sa isi mai puna speranta in el? |
#6
Posted 20 July 2017 - 20:05
Pai in primul rand nu sunt prea socialisti - tara e capitalista. Ca are o conducere mai sociala.. si noi avem acum PSD-ul
In al doilea problemele cu crimele exista doar in anumite zone - de ex in unele cartiere din Cape Town sau unele bantustane si aproape inexistente in zonele locuite de buri - Johanesburg, unde albii sunt mai rasisti in continuare si nu accepta negrii pe langa ei. Wzzz - mie imi plac africancele. Din Africa de sud evident. Cum naiba sunt toate blonde si frumoase de pica nu-mi dau seama. |
#7
Posted 20 July 2017 - 20:07
Africa de sud e orice numai curcubeu nu.
Memeito, on 20 iulie 2017 - 19:43, said:
Problema nu e socialismul acolo, problema sunt negrii, ca sunt destule tari africane care nu-s socialiste si sunt foarte inapoiate. Cat timp era apartheidul si albii era la putere, lucrurile erau OK, dupa ce s-au bagat negrii s-a imputit treaba. albii respectivi nu aveau ce cauta acolo, da de nicio culoare, tot asa cum sirienii nu au ce cauta in europa. Edited by bullterrorist, 20 July 2017 - 20:09. |
#8
Posted 20 July 2017 - 20:22
bullterrorist, on 20 iulie 2017 - 20:07, said:
Africa de sud e orice numai curcubeu nu. Ce au vrut ce a iesit https://en.wikipedia.../Rainbow_nation eiffel, on 20 iulie 2017 - 20:05, said:
Pai in primul rand nu sunt prea socialisti - tara e capitalista. Ca are o conducere mai sociala.. si noi avem acum PSD-ul https://mg.co.za/art...nationalisation Quote We mean fundamental change in the structure, systems, institutions and patterns of ownership, management and control of the economy in favor of all South Africans, especially the poor, the majority of whom are African and female, as defined by the governing party, which makes policy for the democratic government,’’ said Zuma. Daca asta e nu socialism ... atunci e comunism . http://www.news24.co...lise-20170521-2 |
#9
Posted 20 July 2017 - 20:45
Nu e nici socialism nici comunism. E coruptie. Si inca una enorma.
Si Mandela a fost implicat, pana la urma l-au scos basma curata si au bagat-o pe nevasta-sa in puscarie. |
#10
Posted 20 July 2017 - 21:12
Jammalan-the-Prophet, on 20 iulie 2017 - 20:22, said:
Ce au vrut ce a iesit https://en.wikipedia.../Rainbow_nation https://mg.co.za/art...nationalisation Daca asta e nu socialism ... atunci e comunism . http://www.news24.co...lise-20170521-2 Economia a crescut din 2009 de cand este Zuma presedinte , a scazu in ultimi ani, dar a scazut si global. Dupa mintea ta, cand o tara are probleme economice, inseamna ca este din cauza socialismului. |
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#11
Posted 20 July 2017 - 21:21
ca multe chetii in viata si socialismul e bun dar in doze moderate, nu ca fel principal.
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#12
Posted 20 July 2017 - 21:27
tenzen, on 20 iulie 2017 - 21:12, said:
Vezi ca si SUA a nationalizat cand a fost criza din 2008, si nu e comunista. Economia a crescut din 2009 de cand este Zuma presedinte , a scazu in ultimi ani, dar a scazut si global. Dupa mintea ta, cand o tara are probleme economice, inseamna ca este din cauza socialismului. A scazut global economia? Dupa ce date? Si a nationalizat SUA minele si resursele petroliere? eiffel, on 20 iulie 2017 - 20:45, said:
Nu e nici socialism nici comunism. E coruptie. Si inca una enorma. Si Mandela a fost implicat, pana la urma l-au scos basma curata si au bagat-o pe nevasta-sa in puscarie. Cand tu maresti din pix salariu minim si ai apoi o scadere de 15% pe sectorul manufacturier si somaj exploziv eu zic ca e coruptie socialista. Ca puteau si doar corupti si sa nu stelute toata industria. Edited by Jammalan-the-Prophet, 20 July 2017 - 21:30. |
#13
Posted 20 July 2017 - 21:41
Clasa politica din Africa de Sud e urata de orice alb sau negru cu cap. E important in schimb sa nu se ajunga discursul la : "Era mai bine innainte"...
Edited by ionutzitaly, 20 July 2017 - 21:42. |
#14
Posted 20 July 2017 - 21:45
Jammalan-the-Prophet, on 20 iulie 2017 - 21:27, said:
A scazut global economia? Dupa ce date? Si a nationalizat SUA minele si resursele petroliere? (Cand mai cauti pe google "south africa nationalization", da pe al III-lea link.) Ce naibi o mai lalaim atat, ai deschis un topic prin incerci sa inventezi ca Africa de S ar fi la un pas de comunism si ca de asta au ei probleme economice. Ai devenit un fel de Galeo capitalist. )) Edited by tenzen, 20 July 2017 - 21:48. |
#15
Posted 20 July 2017 - 21:56
tenzen, on 20 iulie 2017 - 21:45, said:
Si ce Africa de S si-a nationalizat minele si petrolul ? (Cand mai cauti pe google "south africa nationalization", da pe al III-lea link.) Nationalization is high on the policy agenda in South Africa =))))))))))) danke https://www.thenatio...ibution-1.41173 But that trade relationship could be at risk as the embattled president Jacob Zuma fights waning popularity and the country struggles with about 35 per cent unemployment. Far left parties are frequently calling for the outright confiscation of land from whites – farmers in particular. Mr Zuma’s musing on the topic has added a new layer of unease to an agricultural sector currently battling a drawn out drought. “First we must undertake a pre-colonial audit of land ownership, use and occupation patterns,” he said in Cape Town this month, according to News24, the country’s largest digital media organisation. “Once the audit has been completed, a single law should be developed to address the issue of land restitution without compensation.” Edited by Jammalan-the-Prophet, 20 July 2017 - 22:00. |
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#16
Posted 20 July 2017 - 22:20
Jammalan-the-Prophet, on 20 iulie 2017 - 21:56, said:
Nationalization is high on the policy agenda in South Africa =))))))))))) danke https://www.thenatio...ibution-1.41173 But that trade relationship could be at risk as the embattled president Jacob Zuma fights waning popularity and the country struggles with about 35 per cent unemployment. Far left parties are frequently calling for the outright confiscation of land from whites – farmers in particular. Mr Zuma’s musing on the topic has added a new layer of unease to an agricultural sector currently battling a drawn out drought. “First we must undertake a pre-colonial audit of land ownership, use and occupation patterns,” he said in Cape Town this month, according to News24, the country’s largest digital media organisation. “Once the audit has been completed, a single law should be developed to address the issue of land restitution without compensation.” egal doua puncte si multe paranteze aichivitiezan Edited by tenzen, 20 July 2017 - 22:21. |
#17
Posted 20 July 2017 - 23:11
Wzzz, on 20 iulie 2017 - 19:28, said:
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#18
Posted 21 July 2017 - 05:48
ionutzitaly, on 20 iulie 2017 - 21:41, said:
E important in schimb sa nu se ajunga discursul la : "Era mai bine innainte"... A, ok, apartheid & shit, dar negrii care isi vedeau de treaba si nu se inhaitau cu ANC-ul lui Mandela o duceau ok-ish. Vorbind de late '80s, cand apartheidul dur al lui Botha se mai domolise. Singura chestie pe care negrii au reusit s-o faca a fost sa generalizeze saracia, inainte negrii erau saraci iar albii erau ok, acum negrii sunt si mai saraci iar albii au ajuns ca negrii inainte! Rainbow poverty nation, intr-adevar, in Africa de Sud nu se mai tine cont de culoarea pielii cand e vorba sa te saraceasca guvernul! Ironic, situatia de acolo e confirmarea vie a teoriilor lui Nietzsche... Edited by garett, 21 July 2017 - 05:50. |
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