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"Probleme" ma refeream la modul lor de abordare al pietelor. Acum un an tin minte ca intr-o conferinta de presa, au anuntat procentele de vanzari pe toate pietele. Europa era pe ultimul loc cu doar 3% din totalul vanzarilor  :cursing: .
Pietele lor preferate sunt America Nord + Sud si Asia (in special China, Koreea de Sud, India). De acolo isi trag peste 90% din vanzari.

Parerea mea e ca Motorola are o strategie proasta de marketing si pierde mult din cauza asta. Nu inteleg de ce nu depun eforturi pentru a lansa majoritatea modelelor concomitent in toate pietele?
Un client care vrea un anume model trebuie sa astepte luni de zile (o jumatate de an chiar). In felul asta pierd o gramada de clienti.
Degeaba mai lanseaza acum Milestone in Romania cand piata e plina deja de Samsung-uri, LG-uri, HTC-uri cu preturi chiar mai reduse.
Trebuia lansat de acum cateva luni bune.

MOTOROI a fost lansat zile trecute si pentru Europa sub numele de Milestone XT720. A primit si niste upgrade-uri la procesor (720 MHz ) si la RAM (512MB) :
http://forum.softped...howtopic=676234

Edited by antinVidia, 16 June 2010 - 12:43.


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ai perfecta dreptate. acum nu se mai merita sa iti iei milestone care deja e intrecut de multe alte telefoane....

pacat ca imi placea milestone foarte mult, mai mult ca si nexus sau ca si desire...

astept sa vad ce se intampla cu droid x, imi place la nebunie telefonul respectiv sau droid 2, sau chiar milestone xt....

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Pt un locuitor din europa nu prea se merita sa cumpere Motorola, prea este lipsa de interes pe continentul asta.
Marile release-uri sunt in America, iar aici ajung cu luni intarziere.
Nici macar cele low/med-range nu au promovare, Dext sau Backflip, care aveau aici o piata propice.

Doar Motoroi-ul european il mai astept, tocmai pt design, dar restul... nu prea mai merita.

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Droid 2 first impressions :  

[ http://i47.tinypic.com/2v9fc5y.jpg - Pentru incarcare in pagina (embed) Click aici ]

Pana acum se pot confirma cateva schimbari fata de primul Droid :

8GB memorie interna + card de 8GB in pachet
Camera de 5MPx mai rapida decat cea de pe Droid
butoanele senzitive de sub display au fost restilizate
carcasa cromata in jurul ecarnului si pe "barbie"
tastatura externa schimbata complet (taste mai mari si mai bombate, D-Pad-ul a fost inlaturat)  
procesor 1 Ghz (nu se stie inca ce model)
Android 2.1 + interfata MotoBlur (cu un nou skin)
acelaeasi dimensiuni ca si primul Droid

Va fi disponibil "in the next few weeks" .

"It felt really nice in my hand. It seems smoother than the original Droid. A lot more curves and less sharp edges.
The camera button is also in the same place, but smaller and the same color as the volume buttons.
The whole device was a dark crome-like color instead of the original Droid's black.
The soft keys were touch-sensitive at the bottom and were in a different order than on the original phone."

Sursa - gizmodo.

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Chiar arata mai bine, mai ales cromul cu culoare neagra. Iar butoanele sunt luate de la Dext si Backflip ca layout.
Dar odata cu 2.2 poti instala si aplicatii pe card, deci 16 GB de spatiu, acum chiar se apropie de iPhone si nu mai conteaza cat ROM are deviceul.

Dar interfata MotoBlur, vor ei sa-si faca publicitate, dar si Androidul simplu arata destul de bine.
Un lucru de reprosat, faptul ca Milestone avea doar 256 RAM, pt ca acum sa lanseze acest model care sa-l inlocuiasca. Buna manevra, pt a mai castiga cativa clienti, dar proasta prin ideea ca Milestone abia acum intra pe unele piete.

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Droid 2 Hands on (video)

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Benchmarks :

Droid 1 - 550 MHz TI OMAP3430 + PowerVR SGX530 graphics processor + 256MB RAM
Droid 2 - 1 GHz TI OMAP3630 + PowerVR SGX530 graphics processor + 512MB RAM

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The most popular system benchmark lately has been Quadrant, so I checked out the scores. The Droid 2 scored 1199, which is the highest we have seen for any phone running Android 2.1. A Nexus One with Android 2.1 scores around 500 in this benchmark and that score almost triples to 1489 when Android 2.2 is installed.

OMAP3630 is one of the first mobile platforms to use a 45nm production process (vs 65nm of the OMAP3430).
The shrink in size results in smaller transistors which consume less power
  (Android and Me)

Impresionat procesorul. Frecventa mare si consum redus de curent (45nm production process).
Bate lejer Snapdragon-ul de 1GHz. Ma bucur ca Motorola nu urmeaza turma si foloseste procesoare de la Texas Instruments  :wub: .

Edited by antinVidia, 21 June 2010 - 09:40.


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un telefon superb acest Droid 2, pacat ca iar vom astepta cateva luni bune pana se lanseaza si in Europa :|

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Tare noul procesor a lui Droid2! Este o alegere fericita!

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View PostantinVidia, on 21st June 2010, 10:34, said:

The most popular system benchmark lately has been Quadrant, so I checked out the scores. The Droid 2 scored 1199, which is the highest we have seen for any phone running Android 2.1. A Nexus One with Android 2.1 scores around 500 in this benchmark and that score almost triples to 1489 when Android 2.2 is installed.

OMAP3630 is one of the first mobile platforms to use a 45nm production process (vs 65nm of the OMAP3430).
The shrink in size results in smaller transistors which consume less power
  (Android and Me)

Impresionat procesorul. Frecventa mare si consum redus de curent (45nm production process).
Bate lejer Snapdragon-ul de 1GHz. Ma bucur ca Motorola nu urmeaza turma si foloseste procesoare de la Texas Instruments  :wub: .
Da dar procesorul ARM Cortex A8 1GHz de pe Samsung Galaxy S si Samsung Wave nu il bate. ARM Cortex A8 tot pe 45nm e.
Galaxy S si Wave au cel mai puternic puternic CPU si GPU respectiv cel mai bun senzor de touch amtel maxtouch. ;)

Edited by Just_Cavalli, 21 June 2010 - 18:01.


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De unde stii? Este vre-un test comparativ facut intre tel respective? sau iara ridici in slavi samsungul oricand prinzi ocazia?

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View PostRaySefo, on 21st June 2010, 19:25, said:

De unde stii? Este vre-un test comparativ facut intre tel respective? sau iara ridici in slavi samsungul oricand prinzi ocazia?
Sunt teste si articole pe internet... cauta pe google...

Un ex. [ https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/DLUQP7CWyeQ?feature=oembed - Pentru incarcare in pagina (embed) Click aici ]


Samsung's Galaxy S scores in benchmarks http://asia.cnet.com...62200389,00.htm


One of the most interesting things about the I9000 is its Samsung S5PC110 or Hummingbird processor. This chip is clocked at 1GHz and based on the Cortex A8 architecture. Announced late last year, the Hummingbird's full specifications are still not available on Samsung's semiconductor Web site. But at CTIA in the US early this year, Samsung revealed that the chip is capable of processing 90 million triangles per second, thanks to the PowerVR SGX 3D graphics engine. In comparison, the 1GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon processor used in devices such as the HTC Desire and  Google Nexus One does up to 22 million triangles per second.

Edited by Just_Cavalli, 21 June 2010 - 18:49.


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Da, ai dreptate cu cpul si gpul, dar nu conteaza neaparat cum face asta.
Un exemplu iti dau acum, Legend are un Qualcom, la 600Mhz, si Desire, dupa cum stii, un Snapdragon (tot Qualcom) pe la 1Ghz.
Dar in Necore Legend bate Desire. Cum iti explici?
Conteaza si softul cum este implementat, sa nu uitam ca iPhoneul se descurca cu ARM de 420Mhz, pe cand Diamond cu 528Mhz, "lesina". Depinde mult de soft, sper ca MotoBlur sa fie optimizat pt maximul de viteza.

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View PostDheus, on 21st June 2010, 22:51, said:

@Just_Cavalli
Da, ai dreptate cu cpul si gpul, dar nu conteaza neaparat cum face asta.
Un exemplu iti dau acum, Legend are un Qualcom, la 600Mhz, si Desire, dupa cum stii, un Snapdragon (tot Qualcom) pe la 1Ghz.
Dar in Necore Legend bate Desire. Cum iti explici?
Conteaza si softul cum este implementat, sa nu uitam ca iPhoneul se descurca cu ARM de 420Mhz, pe cand Diamond cu 528Mhz, "lesina". Depinde mult de soft, sper ca MotoBlur sa fie optimizat pt maximul de viteza.
Ai drepatate, degeaba ai hardware bun daca softul este jalnic.

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View PostDheus, on 21st June 2010, 22:51, said:

Depinde mult de soft, sper ca MotoBlur sa fie optimizat pt maximul de viteza.
Dupa cum spun cei de la Motorola si cei care au testat prototipul de Droid 2 si Droid X, MotoBlur 2.0 e mult mai rapida ca MotoBlur 1.5.

@Just_Cavalli :
Inca nu poti spune ca cpu-ul Samsung Galaxy S e mai bun decat OMAP3630-ul celor de la Texas Instruments.
Nu exista inca teste intre aceste 2 procesoare. Un lucru e cert: ambele sunt mai bune decat Snapdragon-ul de 1GHz de la Qualcomm.

Ambele procesoare au 1GHz, ambele sunt fabricate in tehnologia pe 45nm (consum mic de curent), ambele sunt bazate pe nucleu ARM Cortex A8, ambele au GPU PowerVR SGX530 si 512MB RAM. Vom vedea care e mai bun. Inca nu se stie.

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s-a lansat ieri Droid X

[ http://www.blogcdn.com/www.engadget.com/media/2010/06/droid-x-hands-top-001-hands.jpg - Pentru incarcare in pagina (embed) Click aici ]

primele impresii:

    *  It's built of basically the same material as the Droid, but there's something almost kind of "taut" about the phone, where when you thwack it with a finger it resounds like a drum. The phone vibration seems to work on this same principle, giving it much less of the typical buzz (in the funky, cheap sense) you expect.
    * There are three mics, and in video mode you can select between "scenes" based on which mic you want to use: outward facing for regular shoots, inward facing for narration. The third mic is up top for noise cancellation during calls.
    * Yeah, there's not kickstand, but the EVO 4G really does seem chunky up against the Droid X, and the camera bulge on the latter is not annoying at all.
    * PHYSICAL BUTTONS.
    * You get your choice between Swype and Motorola's multitouch keyboard, which is really pretty great. We were typing at speed within a few seconds of using it.
    * You can tell that the processor is fast, but the UI still has a jerky quality to it -- it's not totally fluid. We'd say that's more of an Android thing, though.
    * The new version of Motoblur is much, much more attractive than before -- the widgets are sleeker, smaller, and less in your face. You can also resize them, and they rearrange themselves somewhat intelligently.


SURSA

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@Go.go.man
antinVidia deja a facut thread separat cu acest model. Il gasesti tot pe aria Motorola, asa ca nu trebuia sa mai pui si tu aici.

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Conform unei surse sigure, cei de la Android & Me spun ca Droid2 va fi lansat in august, in jurul datei de 23, cu Android 2.2 la bord.
Pana atunci Droid\Milestone si Droid X sunt planificate si ele sa primeasca upgrade-ul la versiunea 2.2. (sursa phandroid)

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Droid 2 va fi dezvaluit pe 12 august preinstalat cu Android 2.2 Froyo. Din 23 august se va gasi in magazine.
Americanii vor avea parte si de o editie speciala R2-D2 :D.  [unwiredview]

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