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Cum leg un bec la un panou solar

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cornete

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Salut ,

am de gind sá-mi cumpar un panou solar si sá leg de el un bec.
(pt. a lumina noaptea in balcon )

Cum sunt total afon la astfel de chestii .Cum sa fac ?

Multam !

panoul solar arata asa  : http://www.q-cells.d...L_300704_de.pdf

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Pai panoul furnizeaza curent pe timpul zilei. Becul vrem sa lumineze noaptea. Deci vrem sa se acumuleze energia undeva...intr-un acumulator. :) Eu nu am cetit acolo ca nu vrea sa deschida pdf urile... :( ce tensiune furnizeaza, ce curent? Ce tensiune / curent are becul tau? Avand in vedere astea, vedem ce solutii ai. Iti zic insa ca cel mai convenabil, daca vrei lumina exterioara, e sa faci un invertor care din acumulator alimenteaza un bec cu neon. E consumu de energie mai mic...

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cornete

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Multam fain de raspuns Dj Shock
Date technice panou solar :

5 ELECTRICAL DATA :
Current at 0.5 V  ≥6.70 A
Ø Isc                   7.52 A
Ø Uoc                  609 mV
Ø Pmax                3.43 W
Ø Efficiency           14.1 %

Temp. COEFFICIENTS  :
Power - 0.43 %/K
Current +2.30 mA/K
Voltage - 2.12 mV/K



Mechanical Data :
Product Multicrystalline silicon solar cell
Format 156 mm x 156 mm +/- 0,5 mm
Average thickness 300 µm/270 µm +/- 40 µm
Front (-) 2 mm bus bars (silver),
blue anti-reflecting coating (silicon nitride)
Back (+) 5mm wide soldering pads (silver/aluminium),
back surface field (aluminium)


Despre bec nu am nici o idee ,tre' sa fie unul care sá fie suportat de panoul solar.

La chestia cu acumulatorul nu m-am gíndit,pt cá da, vreau sa lumineze noaptea iar ziua sa se incarce.

Vreau sá fac o chestie experimentalá ca ulterior ,dupa ce am ceva experienta, sá pot trece la iluminat
ín casá (tip bec chior ín coltul camerei) s.a.m.d.

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Current at 0.5 V ≥6.70 A
Deci ai 0,5 V, trebuie sa inseriezi mai multe...Ca nu ai ce face cu doar 0,5 V, nici sa-i ridici nu poti. De-ai avea macar 6 V ar fi super :D

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View PostDj Shock, on Jan 20 2006, 09:20, said:

Deci ai 0,5 V, trebuie sa inseriezi mai multe...Ca nu ai ce face cu doar 0,5 V, nici sa-i ridici nu poti. De-ai avea macar 6 V ar fi super :D

pái la dimensiunea pe care o are : 156 mm x 156 mm +/- 0,5 mm trebuie sa fie ok.

pe o placa de 0,5 m pot pune peste 30 de astfel de chestii.

sau ?

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Teoretic da (eu nu am avut de-a face cu baterii solare) . Poate e cineva pe forum care e bine documentat si stie cat si cum dau...
Trecand la partea cu acumulatorul si cu becul. Daca vrei bec de 220 V, iti trebuie ridicator de la 6 / 12 cat are un acumulator la 220. Dar suge din acumulator in draci ... daca vrei sa adopti varianta cu invertor pt neon ai randament mai bun :)
Ce tipuri de acumulatori ai/vei achizitiona? In functie de asta vom alege dispozitivul de incarcare. Cei recomandati sunt cu plumb...

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de acumulatori nu am nici o idee , ce-mi recomanzi ?

Daca varianta cu invertor pt neon are un randament mai bun,ce componente mi-ar trebui ?
Care sunt costurile ?

Eu vreau píná la vara  sá ínvat despre chestiile astea si sá am un sistem independent , care sá-mi dea o luminá
cít de chioará.
Cred ca un sistem odatá ce functioneazá poate fi ínbunátátit.
Píná acolo ínsá mai am un drum lung,dar  cred cá meritá.

Oricum Dj Shock ,merci !

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Te pot ajuta, ID - ul meu de messenger este diy_ro pe yahoo si pe msn. Am destule variante de scheme in functie de piese disponibile, etc... vorbim ;)

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gandeste-te la varianta cu led-uri albe in loc de bec. consuma mai putin, si super-caps (daca tot dai banii pe panouri) pt. stocarea energiei.

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View Postcornete, on Jan 20 2006, 09:31, said:

...am de gind sá-mi cumpar un panou solar si sá leg de el un bec.
panoul solar arata asa  : http://www.q-cells.d...L_300704_de.pdf
De ce ai ales acest tip de celule independente? Pentru a forma un panou solar complet ai nevoie de inserirea unui numar de 33-36 de bucati si acest lucru nu este chiar asa de simplu deoarece sunt necesare si o serie de diode pentru protectia celulelor. Cred ca este mai simplu sa cauti module gata confectionate care ofera direct tensiunea de 12V.
detalii despre :

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FROM CELLS TO MODULES
The voltage output from a single crystalline silicon solar cell is about 0.5 V. Current is directly proportional to the cell's surface area, and designers count on about 7-A maximum output for a 6-in.2 multicrystalline cell. The typical panel module has 30 to 36 cells that are wired in series to generate a nominal 12-V output, which is actually about 17 V at peak power.

Because the cells are connected in series, and cells that are partially or completely shaded by tree branches, chimneys, or even guy wires have a high internal resistance, shading is a problem for photovoltaic modules. If even one full cell is completely shaded, the output voltage of the array will drop to half of its unshaded value to protect itself. If it didn't, the cell would be destroyed by the need to carry the current produced by the rest of the array while in its high-resistance state. If enough cells are shaded by nearby objects that throw hard-edge shadows, the whole module will drop out.

To deal with the shading problem, some modules place bypass diodes across each cell to carry the current when the cells themselves cannot. Otherwise, they would dissipate power from the unshaded cells. A separate blocking diode in each array in a parallel configuration of modules could isolate that panel if it becomes severely shaded. It would prevent other panels' current from flowing through it and being turned into heat.

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Shading Effects on Photovoltaic Modules

If all the cells in a module were identical, the resultant I-V curve would be very easy to determine by summing the voltages for serial connected cells and summing the currents for parallel connected cells. Under real situations, if the cells are slightly different from each other or are not uniformly illuminated, the resultant behavior is not easily predictable anymore and depends on a complex combination of the actual electrical behavior of each cell. Several papers presented mathematical models in order to calculate the effect of non identical cells in a module  and the causes of distorted characteristic curves are well known. In this section will be discussed some particularities that occur when photovoltaic modules are partially shaded and how different bypass diodes arrangements affect the I V curves of modules in such conditions, from an experimental point of view.

Most photovoltaic modules comes with bypass diodes connected according to Fig. 8, with the purpose of protecting the module from high reverse voltages that could produce hot spots and consequent deterioration of the module. In addition to this, the diodes help to avoid a significant decrease of the curve factor when the module is a partially shaded. With interlaced diodes, the maximum reverse voltage is approximately 1/3 of the voltage of the module plus 1.4 V and with non-interlaced diodes is about 1.4 V.
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Modules with 30 or 33 cells (three columns of cells connected in series) normally have interlaced bypass diodes, while modules with 36 cells (four columns of cells connected in series) present non interlaced diodes. In these modules voltages of 12 V or 6 V are available. In modules with interlaced bypass diodes only one voltage, usually 12 V, is available.


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