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It was recently reported in eWeek that "A senior Microsoft Corp. executive told a federal court last week that sharing information with competitors could damage national security and even threaten the U.S. war effort in Afghanistan. He later acknowledged that some Microsoft code was so flawed it could not be safely disclosed ." (Emphasis added.) The follow up from Microsoft is even better: As a result of the flaws, Microsoft has asked the court to allow a "national security" carve-out from the requirement that any code or API's be made public. Microsoft has therefore taken the position that their code is so bad that it must kept secret to keep people from being killed by it.  

Preluata din slashdot

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DECI,

repet inca o data: folositi MS WIN si la rutare :yeah baby

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Thread mutat la software (si redenumit), pentru ca aici ii este locul.

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:mad:

lasa-l acolo la networking sa vada specialistii si sa se convinga


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Dar tot specialistii ar trebui sa citeasca TOTUL pina la capat (din link-ul pe care l-ai dat) si sa si priceapa :drac:

Citat de mai jos din acel link:

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I agree with you (code shouldn't kill people).

I don't see how thats microsofts problem. The government decided they wanted to use off the shelf computer equipment and software. They got sick of developing a computer system and maintaining it for 30 years. You realize that in the 80s there were software engineers that were maintaining code for submarines that had ferrous-core memory systems.

The navy wanted to get away from that.

So, its nice that you're mad about the navy's choice of computing infrastructure. The fact that it happened to fail has nothing whatsoever to do with microsoft, and you're being irrational about being upset with them over this.
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Deci nu inteleg din cele ce spui decit ca ai un dinte impotriva Microsoft :drac:  :D

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Si deoarece cele ce ai scris NU au legatura cu nimic altceva decit cu generalitatile sau fun, il mut la generalitati.

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I don't see how thats microsofts problem.
Meih.. citatul asta nu combate cu ABSOLUT NIMIK i-ul pe care pusese omul punctul:

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so flawed it could not be safely disclosed

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Microsoft ... their code is so bad that it must kept secret to keep people from being killed by it.

El zicea de cat de prost e codul MS, nu de riscurile de securitate ale US Navy sau alte probleme de-astea minore. :)

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Originally posted by bibicu
Dar tot specialistii ar trebui sa citeasca TOTUL pina la capat (din link-ul pe care l-ai dat) si sa si priceapa :drac:  

Citat de mai jos din acel link:

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I agree with you (code shouldn't kill people).

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Bai bibicule, mi se pare mie sau tu nu umblii pe la slashdot??  :drac:
Tu citezi pe unul care si-a spus si el acolo parerea apropo de acel articol. Articolul cu pricina este acesta:

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May 13, 2002  
Allchin: Disclosure May Endanger U.S.
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A senior Microsoft Corp. executive told a federal court last week that sharing information with competitors could damage national security and even threaten the U.S. war effort in Afghanistan. He later acknowledged that some Microsoft code was so flawed it could not be safely disclosed.  

The bold statements and candid admissions were part of Jim Allchin's testimony during two days in court here before Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly, who is hearing the case of nine states and the District of Columbia seeking stricter penalties for Microsoft's antitrust behavior.

Allchin, group vice president for platforms at Microsoft, was the final executive lined up to defend the Redmond, Wash., software developer. Like company Chairman and Chief Software Architect Bill Gates before him, Allchin highlighted the security problems he foresaw that could result from technical information disclosure requirements sought by the nonsettling states.

"It is no exaggeration to say that the national security is also implicated by the efforts of hackers to break into computing networks," Allchin testified. "Computers, including many running Windows operating systems, are used throughout the United States Department of Defense and by the armed forces of the United States in Afghanistan and elsewhere."

Unlike the states' proposed remedy, the federal settlement proposal that Microsoft and the Department of Justice agreed to in November contains a carve-out that permits Microsoft to withhold API and protocol disclosures if such disclosures would compromise security. The provision is designed to address hackers, viruses and piracy, according to Allchin.

In his testimony, Allchin also addressed .Net and countered charges made by rivals—particularly Jonathan Schwartz, senior vice president of corporate strategy and planning at Sun Microsystems Inc.—about its interoperability. Charging that Schwartz's testimony oversimplified the interoperability of .Net and Java technology, Allchin claimed the two systems are not perfect equivalents.

"Microsoft has invested substantial time and resources in providing great interoperability between .Net and older technologies," Allchin said. "Sun's strategy of promoting '100 percent pure' Java applications discourages interoperability."

During his second day on the stand, Allchin conceded that Microsoft has already identified at least one protocol and two APIs that it plans to withhold from public disclosure under the security carve-out.

The protocol, which is part of Message Queuing, contains a coding mistake that would threaten the security of enterprise systems using it if it were disclosed, Allchin said.

When Kevin Hodges, attorney for the dissenting states, asked him how many APIs would be exempt, Allchin said he did not know the exact number, but it would include APIs that deal with anti-piracy and digital rights management. Microsoft has already identified APIs involved with Windows File Protection that would be withheld, he said.

When pressed for further details, Allchin said he did not want to offer specifics because Microsoft is trying to work on its reputation regarding security. "The fact that I even mentioned the Message Queuing thing bothers me," he said.
 


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uhh, in sfarsit l-am pus la loc  :D

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