Parodontoza- remediu naturist

ata dentara shi ape de gura ce contzin substantze care sunt eficiente cu adevarat impotriva bacteriilor shi ca va veni la control periodic
dupa ce se intampla toate astea faptul ca pacientul foloseshte propolis, vaccinuri sau alte chestii sunt total nesemnificative

Propolis extract as an adjuvant to periodontal treatment.

Abstract

PURPOSE: The aim of this study was to evaluate the effect of subgingival irrigation with propolis extract by clinical and microbiological parameters.
MATERIALS AND METHODS: Twenty patients diagnosed with chronic periodontitis presenting three non-adjacent teeth with deep pockets were selected. After scaling and root planing, the selected periodontal sites were submitted to one of the following treatments: irrigation with a hydro alcoholic solution of propolis extract twice/week for two weeks (group A); irrigation with a placebo twice/week for two weeks (group ; or no additional treatment ?. Subgingival plaque sampling and scaling and root planing were performed two weeks after clinical data recording. Two weeks later irrigation procedures were started (Baseline). Microbiological and clinical data were collected at baseline, and after 4, 6 and 24 weeks.
RESULTS: A decrease in total viable counts of anaerobic bacteria (p=0.007), an increase in the proportion of sites with low levels (< or = 10(3) cfu/mL) of Porphyromonas gingivalis (p=0.005), and a decrease in the number of sites with detectable presence of yeasts (p=0.000) were observed in group A sites when compared to group B and C sites. Propolis treatment did not lead to an increase in organisms such as coagulase positive Staphylococci and Pseudomonas spp. 24 weeks after treatment there was an increased proportion of sites showing probing depth (PD) < or = 3 mm in Group A sites.
CONCLUSION: Subgingival irrigation with propolis extract as an adjuvant to periodontal treatment was more effective than conventional treatment both by clinical and microbiological parameters.
Language eng
Pub Type(s) Journal Article
PubMed ID   15643746

Dincolo de faptul că scrii într-un limbaj alterat, asemeni ccelei ce a postat cîteva posturi înaintea ta (nico09), greșești cînd te referi la propolis.

in orice caz sunt sigur că doctorii stomatologi nu vor să stea cu scaunul liber și de aceea uneori insistă, afirmînd că mersul la doctor și igiena este sine qua non, iar propolisul ... NU FACE RĂU

Dar... prea multă dezinformare domnilor doctori, nu vi se pare ?

chestiile naturiste shi rezolvarea parodontozei nu merg - parodontoza e un termen invechit - parodontita marginala e in genere noua terminologie - de mai mult de 10 ani chiar -
shi nici aerobicul sau baletul la fel ca shi thai-boul yoga, baletul sau fotbalul
nu se vindeca parodontoza - o afirmatzie periculoasa
depinde ce se intelege prin vindecare
daca intelegi ceva de genul: faci apendicita - scotzi apendicul - gata nu mai faci apedincita atunci potzi zice ca asta e vindecare
parodontita marginala e o boala infectzioasa provocata de bacterii shi atata vreme cat eshti supus infectziilor cu  acestor bacterii nu te vindeci in felul cum am zis mai sus
daca un pacient este diagnosticat cu parodontita marginala in una din fazele ei atunci trebuie sa urmeze un anumit tip de tratament ce cuprinde anumite faze, EFECTUAT DE CATRE UN MEDIC, care au ca scop eliminarea infectziei bacteriene
aceste protocoale sunt universal valabile egal ca sunt in romania, sua, china sau pe alte partzi ale globului
medicul trebuie sa-i coboare pacientului incarcatura infctzioasa la un nivel controlabil shi sa-i ofere acestuia posibilitatea de a se intretzine
toate aceste tratamente se bazeaza pe faptul ca pacientul ishi face igiena bucala perfect cu periutza dentara, ata dentara shi ape de gura ce contzin substantze care sunt eficiente cu adevarat impotriva bacteriilor shi ca va veni la control periodic
dupa ce se intampla toate astea faptul ca pacientul foloseshte propolis, vaccinuri sau alte chestii sunt total nesemnificative
studiile au aratat ca vaccinurile nu sunt eficiente in tratamentul parodontitei marginale - de ce ? simplu - flora bacteriana din cavitatea bucala este asha de numeroasa astfel incat nu se poate realiza un vaccin pentru toate speciile
de exemplu: faci vaccinul pentru gripa ... dar tot faci gripa - de ce ? fiindca ai venit in contact cu un virus pentru care vaccinul nu era conceput
e un pic fortzat ex pentru ca e vorba de virusuri shi nu de bacterii dar cam asta ar fi ideea
parodontita marginala poate fi oprita de catre un medic ... dar pacientul trebuie sa fie capabil sa pastreze la nivelul in care boala a fost oprita din evolutzie shi asta inseamna VINDECARE in parodontologie
daca pacientul nu ishi face igiena bucala corect atunci se reinfecteaza shi boala reporneshte

boala parodontala este cel mai adesea cauzata de prezenta tartrului subgingival ...
boala parodontala NU se poate ameliora fara efortul facut acasa al pacientului , efort in sensul unei igiene dentare perfecte . Daca igiena e perfecta, atunci poti sa bagi si propolis pe rol, rau sigur nu facedar pina la obtinerea unei igiene perfecte e cale lungaproblema ar fi ca multi pacienti inteleg gresit rolul propolisului, deci insist: propolisul NU inlocuieste spalatul (corect) pe dinti !!!!!!!

Evident că și eu sunt de acord că trebuie să treci pe la dentist că să curețe tartrul.

referitor la prima ta propozitie, nu pot decit sa            

legat de cea de-a doua, nu pot sa spun decit ca gindesti pe dos... si asta nu ar fi o problema, cita vreme ai gindi numai pt tine....
daca cumva nu ai inteles pina acum, de aceea sint f multe situatii disperate, ca sint pacienti (si nu putini, din pacate) care au ascultat sfaturile unora ca tine si s-au dus la vraci, naturisti si ghicitoare, in loc sa mearga unde trebuia de la inceput: la medic adica.... iti doresc sa nu ai niciodata probleme de sanatate, caci vai de tratamentul tau cu propolis.... in rest, nu pot decit sa-ti urez "vinzare buna"

in fine, legat de ultima.... cred ca ar trebui sa faci intii medicina (stomatologia), si abia apoi sa iti dai cu parerea despre cine pe cine dezinformeaza...

PS: nu-mi trebuie francul, pt ca n-ai inteles nimic...

Evaluation of antiplaque activity of Azadirachta indica (NEEM) leaf extract gel?a 6-week clinical study
M. Raveendra PaiCorresponding Author Contact Information, E-mail The Corresponding Author, 1, Leelavathi D. Acharya and N. Udupa
Department of Pharmaceutics, College of Pharmaceutical Sciences, Manipal Academy of Higher Education, Manipal 576119, India
Received 30 January 2003;  accepted 22 September 2003. ; Available online 4 December 2003.

Abstract

Various chemical agents have been evaluated over the years with respect to their antimicrobial effects in the oral cavity; however, all are associated with side effects that prohibit regular long-term use. Therefore, the effectiveness of neem (Azadirachta indica A. Juss) leaf extract against plaque formation was assessed in males between the age group of 20?30 years over a period of 6 weeks. Present study includes formulation of mucoadhesive dental gel containing Azadirachta indica leaf extract (25 mg/g). A 6-week clinical study was conducted to evaluate the efficacy of neem extract dental gel with commercially available chlorhexidine gluconate (0.2% w/v) mouthwash as positive control. Microbial evaluation of Streptococcus mutans and Lactobacilli species was carried out to determine the total decrease in the salivary bacterial count over a period of treatment using a semi-quantitative four quadrant streaking method. The results of the study suggested that the dental gel containing neem extract has significantly (P<0.05) reduced the plaque index and bacterial count than that of the control group.

Neem
Inhabitants of rural areas in southern Asia and India have used the neem tree (Azadirachta indica) as a source of good oral hygiene for ages. A half-century ago, missionaries began introducing modern dental care procedures to these people, only to find that there was no need for them. ?They discovered that the people in rural India?who had never used a toothbrush, never used Colgate or Crest?had also never had cavities,? says Autumn Blum, a cosmetic chemist who owns the Clearwater, Fla.-based oral care company Organix South. ?They had fantastic teeth, all because of the neem tree. They?d pluck a branch down and use it as a toothbrush?the neem tree now has the nickname of ?the toothbrush tree.??

According to Blum, the neem tree is beneficial not only for its cleaning ability but also for protecting the mouth. Scientific research shows that neem bark extract can reduce the ability of some streptococci (the bacteria that cause strep throat and other oral conditions) to colonize tooth surfaces. In addition, the consistent use of neem toothpaste and mouthwash was shown to prevent or even reverse gingivitis. There have even been some reports of gum-tissue-loss reversal as a result of neem use. It?s believed that the antibacterial compounds and neem?s ability to bolster the immune response in the gums and tissues of the mouth account for these benefits. In fact, a study published in the Journal of Ethnopharmocology in 2004 by the College of Pharmaceutical Sciences in Manipal, India, suggests that dental gel containing neem extract significantly reduces plaque and bacteria in subjects? mouths.

?All the studies have always named the neem tree bark as the most effective part of the tree,? Blum says. ?But none of [the neem-based oral care products] used neem tree bark. I discovered why that is: When you use the bark, it turns the toothpaste completely brown. A lot of manufacturers have shied away from that because they think the mainstream consumer might not be used to their toothpaste being brown
they think it might stain their teeth. But of course it won?t.

Totusi , nu exista si produse , sper naturiste ( din categoria legume - fructe ) , care sa impiedice sau sa reduca depunerile de tartru ?
    M-ar interesa sa stiu daca cineva are o experienta personala in acest sens si care i se par cele mai eficiente .

Parodontoza NU se vindeca! Doar i se incetineste procesul de agravare si de pierdere totala a dintilor!

Salutare. M-am decis sa incerc urmatoare metoda naturista:

"Parodontoza, este boala gingiilor. Spargerea semintelor, ruperea atei cu dintii pot declansa si agrava boala. O alta cauza este patrunderea bacteriilor la radacina dintelui. In acest caz, medicul stomatolog va face o serie de injectii cu antibiotice la baza dintelui. Daca organismul este slabit, se declanseaza parodontoza. Dintii se dezgolesc de gingie si devin mai sensibili la rece, cald, dulce si incep sa cada. Paradontoza apare deseori ca urmare a unor boli generale ca hipertiroidia sau a batranetii. Un ajutor de nadejde este tinctura de propolis. Tineti in gura cinci minute un amestec din 40 picaturi diluate in 50 ml apa, de trei ori pe zi, si, in scurt timp, scapati de paradontoza."

Intrebarea este: Cat inseamna cu aproximatie 40 de picaturi?! Stiu ca suna stupid insa nu am la dispozitie o pipeta asa ca rugamintea mea ar fi sa ma ajutati sa determin altfel aceasta cantitate: eventual in ml sau linguri, lingurite, etc...