Vitamax vs VitamaxQ10

Salut. Care este diferenta dintre Vitamax simplu si Vitamax Q10 ?


Cine a incercat pana acum vitamax si ce efecte a avut?

Edited by alex342, 22 February 2018 - 15:38.

Vezi ce contine fiecare si mai ales in ce cantitate si te lamuresti. Asta nu era motiv de deschis topic....

Vitamax Q10 are in plus coenzima Q10.
Ca medic si activand in domeniul cercetarilor de piata pe segmentul pharma, iti recomand sa nu iei niciun fel de suplimente fara o indicatie de la medic.
Organismul (in conditii normale) nu are nevoie de niciun adaos de vitamine. Vei da banii ca sa le faci pipi

 ergon, on 22 februarie 2018 - 15:40, said:

aşa e...

dovada...

Supplements are a $30 billion racket—here’s what experts actually recommend

mai mult decât atât:

„The Food and Drug Administration is not authorized to review supplements for safety and efficacy before they hit the market. That means the bottles and capsules that line the aisles of grocery stores, pharmacies, and specialty shops may not contain what they say they do. They may have wildly variable amounts of supplements in each batch. They may have hidden, illicit components like amphetamines. They may even have harmful contaminants such as lead and cadmium.”

în plus de asta îngraşi o industrie foarte profitoare şi hoaţă... cea a suplimentelor...

toată lumea ia calciu în prostie, mai ales femeile... ultimele studii arată că duce la parkinson...

iar d3 luat aiurea la cancer de pancreas...

Edited by 3sat, 22 February 2018 - 15:52.

adica faci parkinson inainte de hipercalcemie? total aiurea si nefondat.

eu mereu am fost cu calciu la minim si sub. fara supliment efectele sunt vizibile. asa ca hai sa nu exageram cu efectele devastatoare.

adica hai sa murim de hipo, ca un britanic a citit in urina ca poti sa dai in parkinson.

Edited by Dany_Darke, 22 February 2018 - 16:02.

Totusi, vitamax nu este apa de ploaie. In comparatie cu alte suplimente (vitamine), vitamaxul sta foarte bine.

 Dany_Darke, on 22 februarie 2018 - 16:02, said:

https://www.medlife....nson-rol-calciu

Din pacate ...calciul "sintetic " nu se metabolizeaza. Suplimentele sunt placebo .

eu nu am zis de hipo ci de a nu lua ca vacile calciu aiurea... eu recomand Bonexio...

 alex342, on 22 februarie 2018 - 16:04, said:

o cutie de vitamina C naturală din acerola produsă de Ineldea costă vreo 40 şi ceva de lei... despre ce vorbim? despre vitaminele zdrovit, vim şi altele sub 10 lei cutia?

sau de ce costă Silivit F (silimarina), 40 şi ceva de lei şi restul sub 10-20 de lei?

în materie de q10 vedeţi că aveţi de la remedia q10 de 100şi 150 mg la preţuri ok... care bat la fund cam tot ce există pe piaţă legat de preţ şi concentraţie...

şi de asemenea aveţi MenaQ7 de la Plantextrakt!

dar ce recomand ca top notch e.... Măslin forte extract de la DVR Pharm cu astragalus şi Astragalus forte... o planta foarte complexă...

http://www.medicalon...te-extract.html

Edited by 3sat, 22 February 2018 - 16:34.

ca suplimente pentru ochi recomand OFTALMIC de la Hypericum şi OPTIFORT de la Plantextrakt cu luteină de 12 mg

http://www.medicalon...-supliment.html
Compozitie OFTALMIC:
Extract natural din Silur - Euphrasia rostkoviana ,
Extract natural din Craite - Tagetes patula,
Extract natural din Afin - Vaccinium myrtillus,
Extract natural din Coacaz negru - Ribes nigrum,
Extract natural din Scorus de munte - Sorbus aucuparia,
Extract natural din Albastrele - Centaurea cyanus,
Extract natural din Musetel - Matricharia camomilla,
Extract natural din Galbenele - Calendula officinalis,
Extract natural din Napraznic - Geranium robertianum,
Extract natural din Trandafir - Rosa centifolia.
Fructele de Scorus de munte (aronia) sunt bogate si în proantocianine (antioxidanti care se gasesc si în semintele de struguri) si acid chinic (de 10 ori mai mult decît în merisor).
În tabelele care contin valoarea ORAC (Oxygen Radical Absorbtion Capacity), valoare ce determina capacitatea antioxidantilor de a neutraliza radicalii liberi, aronia are un scor de 80 de unitati, cel mai ridicat dintre toate fructele (287).
Tratamentul naturist cu  flori de craite are actiune antispastica si hipotensiva,  regleaza tensiunea intraoculara si circulatia sanguina a retinei, combate oboseala oculara, scade tensiunea oculara,  are actiune vermifuga si purgativa.

http://www.medicalon...nte-pentru.html

Un comprimat de Optifort contine in compozitie:
Extract din flori de Tagetes erecta (Craita) 120 mg (luteina12 mg si zeaxantina 450 mcg),
Extract din fructe de Vaccinium uliginosum (Afin nordic) 50 mg (antociani 12,5 mg),
Extract din seminte de Vitis vinifera (Struguri) 50 mg (proantocianidine 98 %),
Beta-caroten 24 mg (echivalent la 400 mcg de vitamina A),
Vitamina E 6 mg (echivalent la12 mg sol.50% acetat de alfa-tocoferol)

Crăiţa este o plantă foarte bună pentru ochi

Edited by 3sat, 22 February 2018 - 17:02.

 alex342, on 22 februarie 2018 - 15:34, said:

Ambele sunt apa de ploaie, dar al doilea produs contine ceva in plus...

Bio-Quinona Q10

http://www.medicalon...-reducerii.html

 rosix, on 22 februarie 2018 - 17:05, said:

are ceva q10 şi mai puţin din vitamine...

 ergon, on 22 februarie 2018 - 15:40, said:

Zi de sarbatoare, am dat peste un medic care nu le baga pacientilor pe gat vitamine cu sila.

Edited by DeathRow, 22 February 2018 - 17:16.

 DeathRow, on 22 februarie 2018 - 17:15, said:

eu la farmacie în caz de tuse le bag pe gât tinctură de ardei iute... e dumnezeu! iar la ăştia cu glicemia tinctură de afin... e belea şi asta...

Edited by 3sat, 22 February 2018 - 17:22.

Traim din pacate intr-o lume in care alimentele contin din ce in ce mai putine minerale si vitamine datorita saracirii solului si tratarii cu tot soiul de chimicale si substante a plantelor si animalelor. Foarte multi oameni sufera in ziua de azi carente la anumite minerale: magneziu, bor, etc. sau vitamine: B2, K2, etc.

Nu exista calciu "sintetic" iar carenta de calciu se trateaza cu suplimente.

eu am luat (pe langa magne-b6 si multivitamine)fiole de calciu cu ulei de ficat de morun(parca) 2 saptamani cand eram mai mic si imediat dupa am "explodat" in inaltime. coincidenta?

 ergon, on 22 februarie 2018 - 15:40, said:

cum iti explici ca un energizant care are si b-uri, iti da mai multa energie decat niste cafele?

vitamax q10 duce lipsa parca de niste vitamine, simplu de ochit daca citesti ce contin ambele. deci mai bine ala fara q10.

problema cu vitaminele astea e ca multe au doza prea mica si nici nu le absoarbe corpul in totalitate, daca nu ai nevoie probabil le elimina de tot, ceea ce e bine ca nici surplusul nu e bun. totusi, apar tot felul de "derivate"/surse si fiecare se lauda ca e mai naturala si se absoarbe mai bine.


cand eram in liceu si luam vitamax de-ala made in egipt, originalul, parca imi mai crestea un creier si niste muschi. nu era placebo deloc.

Edited by 41ex, 22 February 2018 - 19:23.

 41ex, on 22 februarie 2018 - 19:22, said:

For healthy, midlife to older adults

Vitamin B12—if you’re over 50. At this age, you may no longer be able to adequately absorb the protein-bound form of vitamin B12 from food. A supplement can help make up the difference to get you to the recommended daily dose of 2.4 μg per day.

Vitamin D—As we age, our skin and kidneys become less efficient at making and processing vitamin D, respectively. For some, a vitamin D supplement may help them get to the current recommended daily intakes of 600 IU (international units) per day for adults up to age 70 and 800 IU per day for those older. Some health organizations recommend higher levels, up to 2,000 IU per day, but this is currently controversial. If too much vitamin D builds up in the blood, it can become toxic, causing nausea, weakness, and constipation.

Calcium—maybe. Calcium absorption also decreases with age. Current recommended doses for calcium are: 1,000mg per day for men 51 to 70; and 1,200mg per day for women 51 to 70 as well as all adults older than 70 years. Recent analysis suggested that moderate doses (less than 1,000mg per day) may help reduce the risk of bone fractures and bone mass density loss in men and post-menopausal women aged 65 or older. But, too much calcium can cause constipation. Too much from supplements, specifically, may also increase the risk of kidney stones.

Overall, multivitamins are not recommended for the generally healthy. There’s just no clear evidence to prove that they have any benefit. A 2013 analysis of 27 trials involving more than 400,000 people concluded that there was no clear evidence that they reduce cardiovascular disease, cancer risks, or reduce all-cause mortality. A study tracking nearly 6,000 men for 12 years found they didn't protect or improve cognitive function. One large, randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled US trial in men found that some who took multivitamins had a slight reduction in total cancer risk (particularly those with previous nutritional deficiencies and cancer diagnoses). But the trial needs to be repeated with women and more baseline data of nutrition status.

For healthy kids and infants
Like healthy adults, healthy kids don’t need a multivitamin and should avoid high doses of individual micronutrients. Recently, some research has suggested that omega 3 fatty acids may complement treatment for attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder and autism, but there is not enough data to draw any conclusions.
The American Academy of Pediatrics, as well as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, recommend that breastfed infants get vitamin D supplements. The AAP also recommends iron supplements for breastfed infants. Breast milk simply doesn’t contain enough of these nutrients for babies. Babies on formula or eating solid foods, however, typically get enough of these from their diet.

Concluzie a la tudorel toader: problema cu vitaminele astea e la cap... nu la dna (adn)... ci la cap!

Lead content in 70 brands of dietary calcium supplements.

Elevated lead levels in calcium supplements may pose a health risk, particularly to children with milk intolerance who rely on these products to meet their calcium requirement. Earlier reports chiefly focused on the lead content in supplements derived from bonemeal and dolomite. This study undertook to determine the lead levels in the major forms of calcium supplements currently available. METHODS. The lead content was measured in 70 brands of calcium supplements grouped in the following five categories: dolomite, bonemeal, refined and natural source calcium carbonate, and calcium chelates. RESULTS. The lead levels measured in the supplements ranged from 0.03 microgram/g to 8.83 micrograms/g. Daily lead ingestion rates revealed that about 25% of the products exceeded the US Food and Drug Administration's "provisional" total tolerable daily intake of lead for children aged 6 years and under. Less than 20% of the supplements had "normalized" lead levels comparable to or lower than that reported for cow's milk. CONCLUSIONS. Children are the most sensitive to the low-level effects of lead. If calcium supplements are to provide an alternate source of calcium to some of these individuals, they should also deliver concomitant lead dosages no greater than those obtained from milk products themselves.

Edited by 3sat, 22 February 2018 - 20:00.