Sistem 3500 lei

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E ok, mai putin carcasa, sursa, cooler-ul(cica si monitorul).
Carcasa schimb-o cu NSK6850/Sirtec 500/Antec Basiq Power 500W/Antec Earthwatts 430W+Case.
Cooler-ul cu TRU Extreme+vent.

Blackhawk, on Feb 14 2008, 19:42, said:

Monitorul o sa il tin pe cel de 19 Samsung , nu vad de ce este ridicol .
Am schimbat dvd-writerul.

cristyyo, on Feb 14 2008, 20:26, said:

Pai de ce sa schimb carcasa Carcasa Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 ECO 80 Silver-Black cu una Antec pentru ca scrie Antec pe ea si are atat ventilatia cat si sursa mai slabe?

Edited by stokarit_s, 14 February 2008 - 23:02.

stokarit_s, on Feb 14 2008, 23:06, said:

Nu este ridicol, doar ca arata un pic mai ciudat decat sunt obisnuit. Doar la aspect ma refer.
@cristyyo Carcasa este un ansamblu f.bun special gandit ca un intreg care sa raceasca toate componentele cu un flux de aer de jos in sus-spate.
Coolerele pasive merg f. bine in carcasa asta.

stokarit_s, on Feb 14 2008, 23:06, said:

Sper sa nu il gasesti ridicol nici dupa cumparare  
Cineva a pomenit de un Horizon de 22", e un best buy la categoria lui si e o diferenta enorma fata de ce vrei tu sa iei.

stokarit_s, on Feb 14 2008, 23:06, said:

   Este adevarat ca gusturile nu se discuta, dar dupa ce ai zis ca sonata III nu se merita pt ca are numai un ventilator + afirmatia de mai sus.. pe mine m-ai lamurit
   Zic insa ca ar fi numai in folosul tau sa citesti cat mai multe inainte de a da banii pe ceva.
    Bafta !

Trombon, on Feb 15 2008, 00:39, said:

Nu am ce face cu un monitor de 22' unu de 19' este cel mai potrivit pentru mine.
Si oricum nu as da bani pe un horizon.
Ai inteles acuma ?

In ceea ce priveste carcasa eu cred ca tu ar trebuie sa citesti mai bine Carcasa Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 ECO 80 este peste Antec Sonata 3 la performante (ventilatie si sursa).

Lasati-l baieti, stie el mai bine decit voi.

Chiar nu vrea sa imi spuna si mie nimeni cum sa fac si eu overclocking la procesor si memorie ?

stokarit_s, on Feb 15 2008, 11:06, said:

auzi il stii pe gugl..? este prieten cu multi dintre noi te sfatuiesc sa ''vorbesti '' cu el ...ii spui ce componente ai adica /placa de baza+procesorul+memoriile dupa ce ii spui asta mai adaugi acolo si +overclock ...ok pana aici e bine
el o sa-ti raspunda la majoritatea intrebarilor trebuie doar sa ai rabdare sa-l asculti ...ii foarte ''vorbaret'' poate dura mult ...
dupa ce ai discutat cu gugle ...si ai incercat sa pui in practica ce te-a invat el ...vii si ne spui si noua ce ai reusit ...si apoi impreuna vom mai ajusta cele necesare
o zi buna

Blackhawk, on Feb 15 2008, 01:34, said:

Se pare ca ei nu inteleg , numai Antec vad in fata ochilor   .

frexxl, on Feb 15 2008, 12:34, said:

Ok o sa vorbesc cu el imdiat dupa ce o sa imi vina sistemul.
Mersi.

"In ceea ce priveste carcasa eu cred ca tu ar trebuie sa citesti mai bine Carcasa Arctic Cooling Silentium T2 ECO 80 este peste Antec Sonata 3 la performante (ventilatie si sursa)."
OK gata, m-ai lamurit !  

Era o vorba din batrani : cand 2 sau 3 iti zic ca esti beat, du-te si te culca... toti forumistii iti zic "mai prietene, sunt alegeri mai bune la banii aia", tu o tii pe a ta.
Sincer nu am inteles de ce ai mai facut topicul daca oricum nu vei schimba nimic.
Daca iti faceai temele mai bine gaseasi despre carcasa ta urmatoarele :

" DESIGN CONSEQUENCES

The unusual layout of the Silentium has a number of consequences:

Relocating the PSU to the front of the case means that all power cables now originate from the bottom front corner of the case. This is probably a slight improvement over the standard ATX layout, as it keeps the cables out of the intended air paths. The cables are routed parallel with the back edge of the motherboard which keeps them close to both the drives and the motherboard itself. However, the cables from the front bezel are unavoidably routed directly through the fresh air path of the power supply, so the usual cable clutter around the air intake of the power supply is not avoided.

The HDD Muffler is located parallel to the power supply. This is quite an efficient use of space, but, because it is not located near any other drive bays, it means that the IDE cable required for the suspended drive cannot be attached to any other devices. Of course, using a second, unsuspended, hard drive in a case like this would defeat the purpose of suspending the first drive. In practical terms, this means that the case is limited to only a single hard drive if it is to be used for quiet computing.

The rest of the drives may be mounted without tools, Accessing all of the drive bays (including the secondary internal bay) requires removing the front bezel, which makes installing optical drives a little more involved than usual. Luckily, the bezel is easily removable by lifting up three clips along the side of the bezel.

The base could have been better implemented. Seating the case on its base requires a certain amount of finesse, and when they finally fit together the case falls into place with a sudden drop that may not be good for the delicate components inside. Furthermore, the vents have sharp fins that make moving the case a bit painful if you put your hands in the wrong place. The base is made out of brittle, low-grade plastic that breaks easily; we broke two of the fins early on during testing by putting the case down at the wrong angle.

This case should never be used on a carpeted floor. Not only would dust collect rapidly, but both the bottom intake and the PSU exhaust vents could be blocked, especially with longer fiber carpets. Overheating would be far too easy.

It is impossible to take the side cover off without first removing the base. Removing the cover while there is a system running inside is a delicate and potentially dangerous procedure. It's a very awkward design compromise. Our impression is that this case is aimed mainly at system integrators who would sell it as part of a complete system to customers who'd rarely open the case..

All the plastic in the case is brittle, meaning that it breaks easily.
The front panel cables could have been an inch or two longer.
The right panel is not removable, and the left panel requires the base to be removed before it can be opened.
The base / case interface is really awkward and could use rethinking.
Most of these are installation issues, that, hopefully, only need to be dealt with infrequently.

The main difficulty that we have with this case is, of course, the noise the PSU fans produce, especially as the load is increased. We know the PSU fans are louder because they run faster than the back case exhaust fans. There may also be some extra resonance caused by vibrations going from the fans into the PSU and chassis as well. We also know that these fans can be much quieter, judging by the identical fans that are running slower on the back panel.

We contemplated removing the PSU to either swap the fans or slow them down with extra resistance or diodes in the voltage feed to them, but decided against it. It's something only a small portion of even the hardcore SPCR audience would undertake. The power supply is really quite integrated into the case, and not designed to be removed. So most users will be stuck with the stock fans in the PSU as they are.
Conclusion :

PSU fans get loud under load
Cheap plastic
No filters!
HDD installation a bit clumsy
Poor base / chassis integration
Short front panel cables "

Promit ca nu mai intru sa iti poluez topicul, nu ar avea rost, oricum tu esti singurul care stii ce ai nevoie.

Edited by Trombon, 15 February 2008 - 12:35.

Trombon, on Feb 15 2008, 13:33, said:

Ok poate nu este asa de rasarita  , dar mi-ai propus tu alta varianta in acelasi pret ?    (sa fie silentioasa sa aiba o sursa de minim 500W si o aerisire buna )
Daca cumpar carcasa sonata 3 dau in plus 127 de lei si mai trebuie sa ii pun un cooler alti bani alta distractie.
Trbuie sa deschid usita de fiecare data cand trebuie sa pornesc calculatorul.

Edited by stokarit_s, 15 February 2008 - 14:45.

Daca puteti sa imi spuneti ce carcasa(cu sursa inclusa sau separat) sa cumpar .
Vreau sa fie silentioasa sa aiba o ventilatie buna si sa suporte sistemul acesta http://www.pcgarage....wishlist/45274/ si overclokingul pe care o sa ii fac la procesor si rami.
Bugetul 350 de lei.

Edited by stokarit_s, 15 February 2008 - 16:24.

Carcasa asta http://www.pcgarage....foxconn/th-001/
De ce? Tabla de 0.8mm(adica groasa fata de altele) plus ca aerul poate sa intre prin fata si in spate il scoate cu un ventilator de 12cm.(Panoul lateral recomand sa-l izolez cu scotchi) Asta e cel mai bun flux de aer.
Aici detalii http://www.foxconnch...ID=en-us0000051 si http://www.foxconnch...D=en-us0000051#
Are si motherboard tray.
Daca ventilatorul e prea zgomotos ii tai firele si le pui la 5V. Nu stii, cheama pe unu care se pricepe. E simplu oricum.
Si placa video o sa faca ceva zgomot.

Sursa: http://www.pcgarage....nic/s12-ii-380/ sau http://www.pcgarage....e-storm-ii-400/

Faci overclock la sistemul tau? Deja e prea puternic. In fine, sursele tin fara probleme. Conteaza firma(capacitati adevarate) nu wattii de pe eticheta.

Edited by Blackhawk, 15 February 2008 - 17:08.

Blackhawk, on Feb 15 2008, 18:03, said:

Pai da o sa arate urat carcasa daca pun scotchi   .

Alte sugesti pentru:

Carcasa(cu sursa inclusa sau separat)sa fie silentioasa sa aiba o ventilatie buna sa suporte sistemul acesta http://www.pcgarage....wishlist/45274/ si overclokingul pe care o sa ii fac la procesor(de la 3000 la 4000) si rami (de la 800 la 1000).
Bugetul 350 de lei.

Edited by stokarit_s, 15 February 2008 - 17:17.

stokarit_s, on Feb 15 2008, 17:10, said:

Eu am un ceva asemanator si am pus banda izolanta neagra pe interiorul panoului. Raceste toate componentele.
M-as mira sa gasesti ceva mai bun la banii astia.

Daca ai bani ia asta http://www.pcgarage....-silent-system/ cu http://www.pcgarage....e-storm-ii-400/

Edited by Blackhawk, 15 February 2008 - 17:26.

Ma repet, Antec NSK6580.
Daca nu vrei, e problema ta.

Edited by cristyyo, 15 February 2008 - 18:53.

cristyyo, on Feb 15 2008, 19:39, said:

Pai si o sa faca fata decat un ventilator (atat la sistem cat si la overcloking) ?  

Blackhawk, on Feb 15 2008, 18:22, said:

Arata cam naspa si este prea scumpa 443 de lei.

Edited by stokarit_s, 15 February 2008 - 18:51.

stokarit_s, on Feb 15 2008, 17:50, said:

E o prostie asta cu venturile de carcasa.Daca tu cumperi o carcasa dupa numarul fan-urilor, nu e bine.
Bineinteles ca va face fata.Ar trebui sa ai grija de procesor, cooler, pentru OC, nu de case.