The Outpost (2020)

 Tarzy, on 09 iulie 2020 - 01:58, said:

Unde zice ca aia din Rambo3 erau talibani ? Nu sunt expert dar nici nu cred ca existau talibani pe vremea razboiului cu rusii, erau toti mujahedini care ulterior s-au luptat intre ei iar unii au devenit talibani.

bine bine .... nu erau (inca) talibani .... dar ... erau buni ... fugareau de pe cai blindatele sovietice .... si mai ales atunci nu considerau ca SUA = satan

De pe wiki - https://en.wikipedia...s_rise_to_power


After the Soviet Union intervened in Afghanistan in 1979, Islamic mujahideen fighters engaged in war with those Soviet forces. Some of those Islamic fighters would later transform into the Taliban according to Professor Carole Hillenbrand who stated: "The West helped the Taliban to fight the Soviet takeover of Afghanistan".[10]

Although no documentation has officially surfaced that the CIA directly supported the Taliban or Al Qaeda, some basis for military support of the Taliban was provided when, in the early 1980s, the CIA and the ISI (Pakistan's Inter-Services Intelligence agency) provided arms to Afghans resisting the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, and the ISI assisted the process of gathering radical Muslims from around the world to fight against the Soviets.[11] Osama bin Laden was one of the key players in organizing training camps for the foreign Arab volunteers, although his organization, Maktab al-Khidamat, was exclusively Saudi funded.[12][13]

Ahmed Rashid states that the US indirectly supported the Taliban through its ally in Pakistan between 1994 and 1996 because Washington viewed the Taliban as anti-Iranian, anti-Shia and pro-Western. For example, it made no comment when the Taliban captured Herat in 1995, and expelled thousands of girls from schools.

At this early stage, the then Assistant Secretary of State for South and Central Asian Affairs, Robin Raphel, strongly supported efforts to engage with the Taliban. She also supported a Unocal-led, Taliban-supported pipeline project on trips to Afghanistan and Pakistan in April and August 1996. She was one of the first senior American officials to meet personally with Taliban[14], including its leader, Mohammed Omar[15]. She called on the international community to "engage the Taliban." Raphel was instrumental in coordinating the State Department's establishment of diplomatic relations with the Taliban shortly after its takeover of Kabul[16]:300. She welcomed their taking of Kabul in September 1996 as a "positive step".[17][18] Her consistent support for the Taliban from its earliest days earned her the sobriquet "Lady Taliban" and "Godmother to the Taliban" in some circles.[19][20]

In late 1997, American Secretary of State Madeleine Albright began to distance the US from the Taliban, and Unocal withdrew from negotiations on pipeline construction from Central Asia.

Edited by Tarzy, 09 July 2020 - 12:02.

Cred ca filmul ilustreaza foarte bine cat de tampit a fost condusa armata americana dealungul conflictului . Au creat un avanpost cvasi-imposibil de aparat pentru ca se afla intr-o vale inconjurata de munti inalti.

Orice strateg militar iti va spune ca tu trebuie sa ocupi pozitia cea mai inalta. Ei bine, ei au facut fix invers. Rezultatul: au murit o groaza iar cei care au supravietuit au fost decorati cu medalii de onoare.  Fix pix. Nu ''pansezi'' viata unui om cu niste medalii . As fi curios sa stiu cati mai traiesc in ziua de azi si cati s-au sinucis sau sunt in depresii din cauza stresului post traumatic.... si a multoor altor afectiuni psihice care apar ulterior.

Edited by Bogotta, 09 July 2020 - 19:04.

 florinbad, on 08 iulie 2020 - 06:56, said:

Vazut si eu filmul. Amerlocii kilaresc afgani. Cam asta e mesajul.
Dar imi aduc aminte ca mai demult am vazut Rambo 3. Unde Rambo si afganii se luptau cu rusii. Afganii calare pe cai, rusii cu blindate si elicoptere. Ma rog nu asta conta. Conteaza cum se incheie filmul Rambo 3. Si anume se incheie exact asa: Film dedicat bravului popor afgan!
Stai pitin da' in filmul asta ultim ce s-a intamplat cu bravul popor afgan?!?!?!?

Edited by XL700VA, 12 October 2020 - 17:04.

 XL700VA, on 12 octombrie 2020 - 17:03, said:

Te iluminez eu. S-a intamplat doo lucruri:

1. Nu toate filmele produse la Holiud sunt facute de aceeasi persoana. Socant, stiu. Asadar nu e nevoie sa se puna toate filmele de acord intre dansele.
2. Poporu afgan a intrat sub calcaiul Talibanilor, asta s-a intamplat.