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#3043
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Iti strici media de viteza la granite. Ca sa recuperezi trebuie sa urci la 130 km/h. Si pe unde bagi tu 130 km/h pe toata Bulgaria?

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Sigur nu a avut 100 km/h medie pe toata calatoria. Este Romania si Bulgaria in drum :).

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Am fost intr-un circuit prin România - Delta și litoral.
Adevarul e ca încă avem multe stații free - majoritatea și rapide.

Afirmația ziaristului cum ca pe la noi nu sunt stații de mare putere gratuite - e ori lipsa de informare, ori rea-voința.

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e dorința in a îndepărta lumea de EV ..
si multi ii cred 🤦‍♂️

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Nu cred că ar avea vreo dorință din asta ascunsă să nu cumpere lumea mașini electrice, el având acțiuni la companiile de petrol. Cred că de fapt se scriu articole despre ce vrea lumea să citească și vor răstălmăci adevărul ca să iasă ce trebuie.La fel ca știrile de la ora 5 de acum câțiva ani. Asta voia lumea asta se dădea la TV
În altă ordine de idei: https://www.volkswag.../softwareupdate
au apărut informații despre update

Edited by glaurentiu, 07 July 2022 - 17:56.


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Plin de minciuni marketing mesajul :)

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Datorită actualizărilor de soft, modelul tău ID. va fi întotdeauna la zi, chiar și după cumpărare.

Va fi la zi dupa multe (multe) luni de asteptare. Masinile noi au 2.4 de anul trecut si cele lansate recent au 3.0.

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Beneficiază de o gamă largă de funcții și optimizări disponibile pentru automobilul tău ID.

O gama scurta de optimizari, dar importante, printre cele mai importante:
- viteza mai mare de incarcare DC
- incalzirea bateriei iarna se va face la 0º C, nu la 8º C ca acum si va fi gradula
- incalzirea bateriei se va face si conectata la statie atunci cand ai o ora de plecare programata (pana acum se facea doar daca era deconectata, consumand din baterie ca sa optimizeze bateria)
- o sa mearga programarea incarcarii dupa 2.5 ani de la lansare; pana acum, daca programai sa ai masina incarcata dimineata, o puteai gasi descarcata
- pentru masinile mai noi vor mai fi chestii gen schimbarea benzii automat, etc. (care sunt sigur ca vor functiona la fel de bine ca restul feature-urilor de condus autonom; adica excelent /s)

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Actualizarea de soft este complexă și se efectuează în paralel cu schimbarea bateriei de 12 volți, drept pentru care nu se poate realiza decât în service.

Trebuie actualizat un sistem care nu este actualizabil OTA, așa ca trebuie dusa in service. Nu e doar bateria de 12V.
Poate la un moment dat VW termina de descoperit toate sistemele care au nevoie de update si ofera o update-uri automate care nu trebuie instalate manual la dealer.

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Vizualizare mesajglaurentiu, pe 07 iulie 2022 - 17:56, a scris:

Nu cred că ar avea vreo dorință din asta ascunsă să nu cumpere lumea mașini electrice, el având acțiuni la companiile de petrol.
doar ca spune ca vrea majoritatea lumii sa auda, si atunci are mai mare audienta. si lumea cauta circ...

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Realitatea e ca inca nu se face nici o actualizare de soft in service.
Daca seria de sasiu nu e pe lista lor de recall, te duci degeaba la ei (am sunat la 2 service-uri diferite care mi-au spus acelasi lucru).
Este incorecta informatia postata pe site-ul Volkswagen.ro cum ca te poti adresa acum unei unitati de service ca sa iti actualizeze softul de la versiunea 2.3 la 2.4.

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Azi la Dedeman, absolut intamplator.
Una dintre ele este a mea.

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Cea din stanga :)

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View PostFujitsu, on 09 iulie 2022 - 11:01, said:

Realitatea e ca inca nu se face nici o actualizare de soft in service.
Daca seria de sasiu nu e pe lista lor de recall, te duci degeaba la ei (am sunat la 2 service-uri diferite care mi-au spus acelasi lucru).
Este incorecta informatia postata pe site-ul Volkswagen.ro cum ca te poti adresa acum unei unitati de service ca sa iti actualizeze softul de la versiunea 2.3 la 2.4.

A aparut TPI 2064797/3. Nu scrie nicaieri acolo despre seria de sasiu a masinilor care ar trebui sa li se faca update.
Au ceva criterii doar, unde trebuie sa verifice seria de sasiu sa vada daca trebuie ceva suplimentar facut pentru el.
Pentru masinile cu soft 1 sau 2 ar dura 6,35 ore iar pentru 2,3 ota 4,55. Bateriile schimbate in 35 minute ID4, 30 la ID3
Plus ceva activare a AC in stationare la ID3 si air care. Nu aveau oare toate?
Cand am cautat pe Erwin am cautat si dupa seria mea de sasiu si la gramada, si spune cam asa in titlu la masinile la care se aplica, E21% - ID.3 and ID.4.

Edited by glaurentiu, 09 July 2022 - 22:09.


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Am gasit si despre SW 3.0 care o sa vina OTA dupa 2.4

Interesante mi se par punctele
  • C32 "the general efficiency of the drive has also been increased."
  • C53 "Under the hood, the complete voice control has been replaced. Before that was Semvox ODP S3 , now it 's Cerence Drive 2.0 . This means that VW is now using the same technology as Mercedes (e.g. in the EQS) and BMW.".
  • C57 "Elimination of the cause of the loss of the online connection"
  • 5.3 => o sa vina si preincalzirea bateriei cand se navigheaza la un charger si Plug & Charge.


Preluat de aici, cu Google Translate: https://www.meinid.c...d-software-3-0/

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5.1 General ( OTA & ex works)
(C??) Data volume for web radio is integrated
It is no longer necessary to buy data volume for web radio or set up a hotspot using your own mobile phone. With a We Connect Plus contract (first three years free of charge), the necessary data volume for web radio is already integrated.
travel assistant
(C3) Travel Assist can be switched using the steering wheel
The active Travel Assist can be deactivated again by pressing the button again (without deactivating cruise control & ACC ). The button can now be used as a switch between " ACC " and " Travel Assist " mode.
(C6) Increased range for detecting vehicles
The range for detecting vehicles ahead has been increased.
instrument cluster
(C7) Permanent display of state of charge (SoC)
previously only at <= 10%
(C40) Further navigation information
Remaining time displayed above navigation instruction and remaining route below the instruction.
(C45) Display of outside temperature
(C8) Illumination Blind Spot Assist for safe door opening
After turning off the vehicle, the rear radar sensors are used to warn the user of oncoming traffic (bicycle or car).
(C9) Grouping of radio stations
TODO: to be written
(C10) More performance (general)
The infotainment can be operated noticeably more smoothly
(C11)
(C12) Redesign of the "Vehicle" menu
Only the tabs:
- "Vehicle" for the 3D display with the setting options - Status - Data
(C13) Loading & loading locations as a separate menu item Offered as
a tile. Contains the current charge status and charging locations.
- Instant loading (tbd) function
(C14) Battery Care Mode
After a successful charge with a charge target of more than 80%, the charge target for the subsequent charge is automatically set to 80% again.
(C15)
(C16) Additional privacy settings
Additional setting options for data protection (e.g. enable/disable send location data individually)
(C17) Profiles
- For data protection reasons, the profile must be selected each time you start it
- Several profiles can be stored in the car (each with different settings)
- Online comparison of the profiles
- Can be set via the app (unconfirmed but basically possible)
- The following points are included in the profiles saved (not all are saved online):
- Windshield wiper settings
- Seat settings
- Light and visibility (dipped headlight switch-on times, convenience turn signals)
- Air conditioning settings
- Driving data display and selection of displays in the digital instrument cluster - Driver assistance system
settings
(C18) Shop
installation of additional "apps" for infotainment (e.g. Apple Music, Spotify, vehicle service, games, etc.)
(C19) We Upgrade
In the settings there is a menu item We Upgrade for unlocking vehicle functions, eg: ( list unconfirmed )
- ACC
- 2-zone climate
- performance increase
(C20)
(C21)
(C46) Better transition between brake and motor at low speeds
At low speeds (below 5 km/h) and light pressure on the brake, at a certain point the electric motor jumps in and "pushes on the brake". This is used to dose the speed below 5 km/h without taking your foot off the brake. The first intervention of the electric motor is now more gentle.
(C47) Manual takeover of ACC braking only during transition - ( unconfirmed )
Braking via ACC (e.g. car in front of you is slowing down) is now only overruled if the driver exerts more braking pressure than the ACC . This means that there is no longer a brief reduction in braking force when the brake is actuated until the foot has reached the position.
(C53) Improvement of voice control (speed & quality)
Significant improvement of voice control . It is now possible to interrupt the vehicle in the middle of a sentence. In addition, the recognition rate has been significantly increased.
Under the hood, the complete voice control has been replaced. Before that was Semvox ODP S3 , now it 's Cerence Drive 2.0 . This means that VW is now using the same technology as Mercedes (e.g. in the EQS) and BMW.
(C55) Smoother countersteering with Lane Assist
Lane Assist now intervenes less strongly when leaving the road (without indicating) in order to improve the user experience.
(C56) Screen lock when using the infotainment while driving
If the infotainment is used while driving, the input option is deactivated after too many entries in a short time. The driver receives a message that the infotainment can only be operated again in a few seconds. If there is a passenger in the car, they can click away the message.
(C59) Selection for charging behavior
In the charging tile in the car, you can use a dropdown to select which charging behavior should be used.
Navigation & route guidance
(C22) More information in the navigation tile on the home screen
(C23) Filter for charging stations on the map
- "All", ">= 50 kW", ">= 100 kW" (Caution: This filter is not included in the route planning)
- "Free charging stations"
- "IONITY"
- "We batch"
(C24) Representation of battery status at (intermediate) destinations and charging stops
In the detailed view of the route (fold out right sidebar), the battery status upon arrival at the (intermediate) destination is displayed. When charging stops, the battery status is displayed at the beginning and after the charging process has been completed. The display takes place here via a battery symbol without a percentage.
If you tap on a line, the percentage values ​​are also displayed.
(C25) Representation of target charge level in "Charging" app during charging stops during a navigation
In the charging app in the car (where you can see the current SoC), a marker is added that contains the recommended charge level for the current charging stop of the navigation.
(C26) Display of the lanes in the map display with a low zoom level
In the map display, the individual lanes are also displayed from a low zoom level. When navigating, the vehicle's current position and corresponding lane changes are displayed with the blue navigation line.
(C50) Recommendation to change lanes
Analogous to C26, the driver can be informed about a necessary lane change.
(C41) Setting the desired remaining range at destination/charging station
In the settings for automatically adding charging stations, the desired remaining range at destination (between 10 km and 100 km) or the desired remaining range at charging stations (between 10 km and 60 km) can be set.
(C42) Setting the preferred
charging networks In the settings for automatically adding charging stations, the preferred charging network can be specified (e.g. WeCharge or IONITY).
(C43) Display of charging stations on the map with current availability
Charging stations on the map are now displayed with their availability (similar to the WeCharge app in the car).
(C44) Setting for considering charging station availability for route (unconfirmed)
In the settings for automatically adding charging stations, it can be specified whether only available charging stations should be planned.
(C53) Improved charging stop planning
Charging stations with higher power are preferred. For example, 2 charging stops with a high charging power are preferred over a single charging stop with a low charging power.
AR - HUD
(C28) Projection of the remaining distance
The remaining distance of the navigation is displayed at certain milestones in the far area of ​​the HUD.
(C29) Directional turn arrow
Requests to turn off roads are now displayed with directional turn arrows (before: always 90° to the left or right)
(C30) More detailed projection of the direction
information Display of the navigation instructions from 700m to 100m -> representation of the road and drawing of the action to be carried out
(C31) Roundabout assistant
Display of the number of the exit and brief display of the exit arrow at the exit
(C48) Projection of the assisted lane change
(C49) Battery low warning
battery management
(C32) More range (unconfirmed)
Up to 50 km more range (unconfirmed) - possibly due to the lack of battery heating in winter .
According to initial reports, the general efficiency of the drive has also been increased.
(C36) New charging curves
Some vehicle batteries have new parameters / charging curves.
The 77 kWh battery of the ID.4 GTX can charge up to 170 kW (officially 150 kW - officially 5 to 80% in 36 minutes, previously 38 minutes).
The 77 kWh battery of ID.3 & ID.4 (not GTX) can charge up to 170 kW (officially 135 kW - officially 5 to 80% in 29 min, previously 38 min).
(C58) Battery heating at departure
time When the departure time is active, the battery is actively heated in order to have an optimal temperature for use at departure time.
ID.Light
(C51) Recommendation to change lanes
As with C26 and C50, the driver can be informed of a necessary lane change during navigation.
(C52) Display of local danger warnings (Car2X)
We Connect ID. apartment
(C37) Representation of opened doors, windows & light
(C38) Last vehicle location
(C39) Information on battery optimization Information on battery optimization is
provided in the We Connect ID app.
With a SoC below 20% and cold temperatures, the app prompts the user to connect the car to a charging station and start charging.
With a SoC over 20% and cold temperatures, the user is informed that he can activate the battery heating by setting a departure time or plugging into a charging station .
Important bug fixes
(C27) Steering wheel heating via voice
control The steering wheel heating can now be controlled correctly via voice control (e.g. "steering wheel heating on level 1")
(C57) Elimination of the cause of the loss of the online connection
Previously, under certain conditions, the vehicle could lose the internet connection. The infotainment then shows that the connection status could not be obtained and all functions with online content were no longer functional. So far, waiting a few days or pulling fuses has helped (see My vehicle is offline ). With this software version, this problem is a thing of the past.
(C60) Send destination to vehicle now works more reliably
Sending a destination to the vehicle (from the We Connect ID. app) now works much more reliably.
(C62) Crackling of the loudspeakers when starting the vehicle fixed
Up until now, in a few situations, cracking could be heard from the loudspeakers when starting the vehicle. This phenomenon should no longer occur.
(C63): Fixed the cause of corruption in the navigation data
Up to now it could happen that parts of the navigation database were corrupted. This manifests itself in route calculation errors, infotainment crashes, missing map data or details, and other symptoms. With this update, the cause is eliminated and faulty navigation data is corrected as part of the update.
5.2 Changes (ex works only)
Current information: There are basically no differences between factory & OTA . However, due to new hardware (e.g. ultrasonic sensors mounted on the side), there is a hardware-related activation of a function that is only possible after retrofitting or ex works.
(C1) Learned parking process
Note: Requires new front camera, new control unit & new PDC sensors (including side)
Up to 5 individual parking maneuvers can be saved based on location. The driver has to perform the parking process once to save. Parking processes at up to 40 km/h and a maximum of 50 meters can be saved in this way.
(C2) Independent parking and exiting
Note: Requires a new control unit and new PDC sensors (among others on the side)
The vehicle can search for parallel parking spaces at up to 40 km/h and perpendicular parking spaces at up to 20 km/h. After stopping, the parking process can be started, the parking process takes place independently. Parking maneuvers that have already started can also be completed by the assistant.

(C4) Travel Assist 2.5 ( swarm data )
Note: According to the current state of knowledge, this function is only provided in connection with the assisted lane change. Existing vehicles do not (yet) have this function. It is possible in the future that the download of swarm data will also be activated for the inventory in the future.
The camera images are now enriched by downloaded data ( swarm data ). As a result, the reliability of the camera can be increased and the usability of the Travel Assist is made possible or improved even on difficult roads without explicitly visible lane markings.
When usingSwarm data are shown as small triangles on the driver's display as lane markings.
(C5) Assisted lane change
Note: Requires a new control unit and new PDC sensors (among others, on the side)
A lane change can be initiated after the display of white arrows in the instrument cluster by tip flashing. During the lane change, the hand must not let go of the steering wheel at any time.
5.3 Known Issues
Preconditioning when navigating to fast loader
In development, will be implemented with software 3.1 at the earliest . A later implementation is possible.
Plug & Charge
In development, willwith software 3.1 at the earliest . A later implementation is possible (but unlikely since it has already been announced).


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Ieri am lasat masina pentru update la 2.4, si schimbatul bateriei de 12 V si am ridicat-o azi de dimineata, ei au spus ca a mers totul foarte bine. Dar dupa ce am citit pe ceva forumuri, s-a dovedit că și la a mea este problema cu CAR2X care nu funcționeaza. motivele ar fi acestea, să vedem care se aplică la a mea:

If CAR2X cannot be switched on after the update to 2.4 , this can have 2 reasons:
1. the certificate was deleted during flashing/parameterization and the workshop did not notice the error memory entry. If the certificate error memory entry comes, commissioning must still be carried out. But that's no reason to worry - the certificate should be uploaded online within 2-3 days and car2x will work again.
2nd it is not a certificate error but the J666 (8107) was "killed" by the flash routine. CPU error in memory with message ecu defective. In this case, the ECU can no longer be addressed via DOIP. Therefore, car2x no longer works - not even after 2-3 days ----> change the ECU.

That was the reason why 2.4 was withdrawn 2 months ago, since the J666 was dismantled, so it should now appear rather seldom.
the support for the possible eventualities and problems that can occur with the 2.4 update has meanwhile shot action codes with which most problem cases can be solved.

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Ai fost anunțat de mașina sa mergi la service?
Ce e Car2X?

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Nu am fost anuntat, i-am sunat eu, la Cluj, prima programare fiind pe 13, dar cum pana atunci nu venise nici o informatie, am lasat pentru 18.07.Chiar daca a stat masina aproape 2 zile in service, asta a fost pentru ca nu au stiut daca o vor termina luni in timpul programului si le-am spus sa nu se chinuie sa o tina cat au nevoie.
Car2x este ceva protocol prin care masinile comunica initre elesi isi transmit informatii despre aglomeratie, sau alte probleme pe drum. Nu neaparat lipsa lui ma supara cat a doua cauza, daca era valabila, adica un ECU prajit. Dar azi dimineata functiona, asa ca se pare ca ar fi fost certificatele lipsa.
Ce am descoperit nou:
masina a pierdut ceva setari, revenind inclusiv la limba romana, dar cu o alta tanti care vorbeste
notificarea cum ca nu am internet radio, nu am mai vazut-o pana acum
a disparut travel assist-ul care era activat prin OBDeleven
line assist chiar e mai cuminte, nu mai smuceste de volan, ca inainte

Edited by glaurentiu, 20 July 2022 - 17:07.


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Am fost la service pentru actualizarea soft la 2.4 și schimbare bateriei de 12V.
A durat o zi lucrătoare, de dimineața pana la închiderea programului.
Sper sa fie ok, n-am observat vreo problema pana acum.
Mai departe pentru actualizare la 3.0 (OTA) știe cineva mai exact ce trebuie făcut? Se face automat sau trebuie sa căutam noi prin setări și sa inițiem procesul?

Edited by Fujitsu, 25 August 2022 - 18:07.


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Se face automat.
Momentan 3.0 se distribuie "in valuri" la grupuri de masini, nu se da la toate simultan.
Cand o sa vina randul tau, vei primi un e-mail de informare inainte.

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dupa aproape 2 ani de cand aveti masinile, sunteti multumiti? ati cumpara-o din nou?
eu nu o mai am, dar sunt curios de reviews.

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