Barcelona si 40 municipii vecine vor limita circulatia masinilor mai vechi de 20 de ani

Problema este mai incurcata la masini, fata de fumatori versus nefumatori. In cazul din urma, nu e nicio indoiala ca este preferabil sa fi nefumator decat fumator.
La masini nu este este o problema in alb si negru.
Sunt diverse studii care arata azi ca un diesel ar putea fi mai putin nociv decat un benzinar. Ce facem, le interzicem pe toate, deopotriva ca sunt diesel sau benzinare?
Trecem de maine pe electrice? Sunt foarte multi sceptici care se indoiesc de beneficiile mediului in cazul unei astfel de schimbari bruste si nepregatite.
De regula, viata nu e in alb si negru

In Tokyo inainte de interzicerea circulatiei dieselelor prin anumite zone, doar 30% dintre statiile de masurare a calitatii aerului indicau parametri normali. Dupa 5 ani de la interdictii 90% indicau parametrii normali. Asta spune totul despre credibilitatea studiilor care scot dieselul ca fiind "curat"
Si mai arata si cat va dura si la noi in Europa ca sa curatam mizeria lasata de promovarea dieselului ca mașina supremă.

Nu iti dau dreptate pentru ca nimic nu se va intampla peste noapte. La fel cu fumatul, inainte sa se intre in normalitate eu ca nefumator gaseam foarte greu un local decent. La aparitia legii au fost ceva urlete, ca se va distruge business-ul restaurantelor pentru ca majoritatea sunt fumatori, ca fumatorii sunt discriminati, etc. Ghici ce, nu s-au inchis nici restaurantele si nici fumatorii n-au trebuit sa se lase de fumat, doar ca in locurile publice poti respira si altceva decat fum.
Asa si cu restrictiile astea, se vor aplica gradual, nu peste noapte, pe baza de masuratori RDE. Insa eu tot astept sa vina cu masuri mai drastice impotriva practicilor de eliminare DPF sau/si catalizator.

In Tokyo nu sunt interzise dieselurile. In 2000, datorita autobuzelor si camioanelor diesel care poluau orasul, in anumite zone din Tokio a fost interzis accesul masinilor diesel fara filtre de particule. Daca masinile au filtre de particule din fabrica sau puse ulterior, n-au nicio problema.

The ordinance is targeted only at diesel trucks and buses already in operation. Passenger cars with diesel engines will be exempt from the controls for seven years after

La momentul aparitiei acelui act normativ, dieselurile personale din Tokyo aveau o cota de piata mica, de sub 10%. Poluarea era facuta de camioane si autobuze.



The Japan Times - Tokyo bans ‘dirty’ diesel vehicles

Oare de cate ori ti-am zis ca batii campii pe forum prezentand lucrui neadevarate?
Ai mintit spunand ca diesleurile sunt banate in Tokio. Nu, au fost interzise doar dieselurile fara filtre de particule.

In nici-un caz cum minteai tu cu nerusinare ca automobilele diesel au fost curate si doar camioanele si autobuzele au poluat.

La momentul aparitiei acelui act normativ, dieselurile personale din Tokyo aveau o cota de piata mica, de sub 10%. Poluarea era facuta de camioane si autobuze.

Unde am zis asta, mai minciunel? Ia citeaza-ma.

In Tokyo inainte de interzicerea circulatiei dieselelor prin anumite zone, doar 30% dintre statiile de masurare a calitatii aerului indicau parametri normali. Dupa 5 ani de la interdictii 90% indicau parametrii normali. Asta spune totul despre credibilitatea studiilor care scot dieselul ca fiind "curat"
Si mai arata si cat va dura si la noi in Europa ca sa curatam mizeria lasata de promovarea dieselului ca mașina supremă.

When Seiichi Himei, a 35-year-old engineer turned cattle farmer, took the Peugeot 307 HDi for a spin two years ago, he couldn't believe the force produced by the small, 1.4-liter car.
The magic ingredient was a diesel engine.
Touted for their torque and fuel economy, diesel-powered cars make up half the European market but long ago lost street credit in Japan, where, after a series of tax changes and a damaging image campaign, just a single model remains on sale.
But diesel-savvy European car makers, cheered by a growing acceptance in the United States and the arrival of cleaner fuel, are gearing up to reverse that trend in a move that could force domestic brands to follow suit and stir up the world's third-biggest car market.
A comeback by diesels could also give European brands - long the underdogs with just 4 percent of Japan's car market - a welcome boost, help domestic oil refiners cut their losses by creating a better balance of gasoline and diesel supply, nudge Japan closer to a UN-mandated goal of cutting greenhouse gases, and provide a boon for diesel-parts makers like Bosch and Ibiden.
"You can buy practically anything in Japan, but not diesel cars," said Himei, a native of Okayama, who drove a gasoline-powered 307 before buying his used diesel version online.
"It's high time Japan woke up" to the merits of diesel, he said.
It was not always so.In 1990, diesel powered 6.4 percent of all new cars sold in Japan. But a law in 1992 lowering the limit on emissions of smog- forming nitrogen oxide - a major byproduct when burning diesel fuel - and tax changes that effectively narrowed the cost advantage of diesel fuel and made diesel cars more expensive, prompted a steady downturn in demand.
The death blow came in 1999 when,in a widely televised stunt, the governor of Tokyo, Shintaro Ishihara, waved a bottle containing black particles of carcinogenic soot that were emitted in greater quantity by diesels than gasoline vehicles.
By 2003 there were only 10 diesel models, whereas there had been 24 a year earlier.Now, only Toyota Motor's Landcruiser Prado remains, while buyers can choose from some 200 gasoline models.
That will change this autumn whenDaimlerChrysler's Mercedes brand will roll out a diesel E-Class and has promised more to come.

In momentul actual, aerul in Madrid este TOXIC.