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Ungaria - Taxa per Gb

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Vecinii nostri se intrec in initiative mirobolante.

In criza de idei si de bani, s-au gandit sa puna taxa pe Gb trafic facut...

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Hungarian internet service providers will be forced to pay a new “internet tax” on the data use they enable, if the country’s parliament passes a new tax bill.

Reports suggest that this bill will go through, as the ruling Fidesz party has a two-thirds parliamentary majority. It would levy a tax of 150 forints, or around 62 U.S. cents, on every gigabyte of data used by ISPs’ customers – an internet-focused extension of an existing tax on phone calls and text messages.

As many fear the ISPs will pass the costs on to their customers, Hungarian internet users are predictably apoplectic, and some have reportedly planned demonstrations for this coming weekend.

Fidesz has responded by saying there will be a cap on the tax, perhaps “around one thousand forints,” presumably per month. Economy Minister Mihály Varga has also suggested that competition would stop the ISPs raising their prices.

Telecoms companies would also be able to offset their corporate income tax against the new internet tax and existing telecom tax. Despite all this capping and offsetting, the Hungarian economy ministry said it expects to derive $83 million a year from the tax.
The Hungarian opposition has urged the government to drop its plans, warning that increasing the cost of web usage would take the country back to the 1990s.

Meanwhile, Hungarian web entrepreneur Zsolt Várady, who founded a once-popular but now defunct social network called iWiW, has reportedly sued all the Hungarian political parties that have been in government since 1990, for creating a tax system that allegedly violates his constitutional rights to fair economic competition, enterprise, free economic competition and fair working conditions.

Várady contends that the system is so “impossible” that viable businesses have to resort to tax fraud or evasion, giving the increasingly authoritarian government opportunities for “blackmail and manipulation” of businesses when they need it.

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Nasol rau :)))

Uite asa mai se taie din piraterie :))) Numai descarci BF ca platesti de iti cumperi jocul =))))

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Posted Image Adica la un trafic zilnic estimat de 20GB ar trebui sa platesc 3000 HUF daca as fi in Ungaria? Posted Image

Nu-mi place asta, inainte ma mandream ca ungurii au taxe mici Posted Image

wtf Posted Image 90000 HUF pe luna in plus?

Oricum, nu e chiar asa. Taxa va avea o limita maxima, citisem undeva dar nu facusem calcule Posted Image

Edited by lex404, 22 October 2014 - 18:17.


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Nu se mai uită la pornache.

 Ruben56, on 22 octombrie 2014 - 18:14, said:

Nasol rau Posted Image))

Uite asa mai se taie din piraterie Posted Image)) Numai descarci BF ca platesti de iti cumperi jocul =))))

Și dacă jocul trebuie descărcat, cum este Steam?

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 Ruben56, on 22 octombrie 2014 - 18:14, said:

Nasol rau Posted Image))

Uite asa mai se taie din piraterie Posted Image)) Numai descarci BF ca platesti de iti cumperi jocul =))))

Din contra. Cumperi jocul prin Steam si mai platesti si sa-l descarci. La torrent platesti doar descarcarea.

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 lex404, on 22 octombrie 2014 - 18:17, said:

wtf Posted Image 90000 HUF pe luna in plus?

Sa nu exageram. Reuters zice ca o sa fie o limita maxima de 700 HUF. Naspa dar nu schimba nimic atit de major (e vorba de 2 euro si ceva).
Oricum o sa se impuste in picior cu asta. Nu e bine sa-ti faci dusmani internautii, nu mai vorbim de 10 hackeri pletosi in ziua de azi ... sa vada cum a fost cu Libia si Egipt.

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La treaba asta prevăd că se lasă cu bătaie și ieșiri în stradă.

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Ca o paranteza in Romania exista o taxa speciala pe hirtie in caz ca nu stiati (si pe copiatoare imprimante si cite si mai cite).

Ca deh, se stie ca oricine foloseste hirtie o face ca sa pirateze opere grafice ale unor autori (de care n-au auzit niciodata dar care au cotizat bine pe la de-alde ORDA).

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 f300, on 22 octombrie 2014 - 18:24, said:


Sa nu exageram. Reuters zice ca o sa fie o limita maxima de 700 HUF. Naspa dar nu schimba nimic atit de major (e vorba de 2 euro si ceva).
Oricum o sa se impuste in picior cu asta. Nu e bine sa-ti faci dusmani internautii, nu mai vorbim de 10 hackeri pletosi in ziua de azi ... sa vada cum a fost cu Libia si Egipt.

Pai am zis ca va fi o limitare. Doar nu is nebuni sa taxeze in halul ala.
Uite, RO are acciza pe carburant in plus, HU are acciza pe internet :D

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 lex404, on 22 octombrie 2014 - 18:17, said:

Posted Image Adica la un trafic zilnic estimat de 20GB ar trebui sa platesc 3000 HUF daca as fi in Ungaria? Posted Image

Nu-mi place asta, inainte ma mandream ca ungurii au taxe mici Posted Image

wtf Posted Image 90000 HUF pe luna in plus?

Oricum, nu e chiar asa. Taxa va avea o limita maxima, citisem undeva dar nu facusem calcule Posted Image

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Antal Rogán, head of the parliamentary group of the Fidesz party told news portal index.hu that the bill on the new Internet tax will certainly change. For instance, his faction will recommend implementing an upper limit on the tax, "similarly to the already established rules of the telecom tax."
It has not been decided yet where this cap will be but "it could be around one thousand forints," he said.
State-owned newswire MTI said on Tuesday when the new levy to be imposed in 2015 was announced that there the tax will be capped at HUF 700 per month for private individuals and at HUF 5,000 for businesses. It is highly likely, however, that MTI was referring to the telecom tax.
In an interview with public television M1 yesterday evening Economy Minister Mihály Varga tried to dissuade concerns about the new levy. He said he trusts that competition will not let service providers pass the new levy on to their customers. He repeatedly said he hopes competition is fierce enough for the service providers not to raise their tariffs.

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 lex404, on 22 octombrie 2014 - 18:27, said:

Uite, RO are acciza pe carburant in plus, HU are acciza pe internet Posted Image

Chiar asa, mai platim un cent pentru Bancorex?

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Poate ca taxa pe GB ar scoate oamenii in strada prin Romania, ca altceva nu reuseste.
Cine stie..poate ca vor imprumuta ideea astia ai lui iohannis sau ponta (in functie de cine va castiga olimpiada hotilor denumita alegeri), pare una excelenta pentru Romania. La cate taxe aberante avem una in plus ce mai conteaza? Posted Image

Edited by n-amname, 22 October 2014 - 18:32.


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Miros urat rau astfel de initiative. Put. Ca si guvernul de la Budapesta.

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Ca o paranteza ati auzit de o tarisoara care oarecum de curind a introdus asa zisa taxa pe stilp care este de fapt si pe .............................. jgheaburi, afumatoare, baraci, soproane, borne kilometrice, semne de circulatie, bidoane si butoaie pentru bauturi,  puturi, cabine telefonice, WC-uri si inca vreo doua pagini de timpenii ?

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Is curios ce parere are Jobbik de asta :D

@Horia, citisem stirea in maghiara dar in alta parte ( ceva share pe FB )
Usor usor ne intoarcem la modelul de taxare dial-up...

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Iti dai seama ca youtuberii isi baga ceva in gura politicienilor din HU. Oamenii ar trebui sa isi spuna cuvantul, sa nu se mai lase condusi ca vitele pe orice drum de o mana de idioti profitori.

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E mai mult o taxa pe business. Unii politicieni de la Budapesta au sustinut ca nu sprijina taxarea persoanelor fizice, in sensul ca aceasta taxa trebuie platita numai de operatorii de internet si ca nu trebuie sa se regaseasca in tarifarea clientilor end-use.

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 horia66, on 22 octombrie 2014 - 18:38, said:

E mai mult o taxa pe business. Unii politicieni de la Budapesta au sustinut ca nu sprijina taxarea persoanelor fizice, in sensul ca aceasta taxa trebuie platita numai de operatorii de internet si ca nu trebuie sa se regaseasca in tarifarea clientilor end-use.

Alti idioti, de parca biznizurile sint martieni fara nici o legatura cu oamenii, nu tot clientii o sa plateasca.

Paranteza: in Ungaria TVA-ul e 27% !!!!

Joaca asta cu taxe total nepopulare cu limita la 700 HUF (cit TVA-ul la o cumparatura de 8.45 EURO+TVA) mi se pare total aberanta, socanta. De fapt mi s-a parut o gluma, un hoax cind am citit-o prima data, am zis ca nu pot sa fie atit de stupizi. Ei, se pare ca sint.

Edited by f300, 22 October 2014 - 18:42.


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