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masstransit

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Cred ca as putea obtine cetatenia bulgara datorita originii. As vrea cu ocazia aceasta sa alcatuiesc arborele genealogic.



Nu stiu cat de dificil este. Conditii, exceptii, birocratie. Banuiesc ca e la fel de greu ca in Romania, plus diferenta de limba.



Care ar fi avantajele?
Destul de mici acum, avand in vedere UE.
Bulgaria are unele taxe mai mici, vezi taxa auto.
In timp lucrurile se pot schimba.




Daca a facut cineva asa ceva, sau cunoaste informatii relevante, il invit sa posteze. :)

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De ce te mai complici inutil?
Inmatriculeza-ti masina si gata.
Ce nevoie ai avea de cetatenia bulgara?De parca ar fi vorba cel putin de cea germana.
Arborele ala il poti face si patagonez fiind.

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Daca poti avea dubla cetatenie ar fi ok sa o ai si pe aia, nu se stie niciodata, poate iti va fi de folos candva.

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Primul pas ar fi sa stii limba.
Al doilea sa te casatoresti cu o bulgaroaica/stai un timp de x ani in Bulgaria.
Nu stiu daca iti dau astia cetatenie doar daca ai avut un stramos de pe acolo,  nu e asa simplu.

De pe wiki:
"Bulgarian citizenship can be acquired in the following ways:
Jus sanguinis: By descent if at least one of the parents is a Bulgarian citizen
Jus soli: By birth in Bulgaria (unless citizenship of another country has been acquired by descent), or a child found in Bulgaria whose parents are unknown
By naturalisation".

Edited by IonutzRO, 06 May 2015 - 12:55.


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View Postadisz, on 06 mai 2015 - 12:33, said:

Inmatriculeza-ti masina si gata.
Gandesti simplist. Masina e miza minuscula. Se poate inmatricula si acum.

Ma intereseaza taxele, actuale si viitoare. Deschiderea catre administratie online. Sanatate si alte chestiuni asemanatoare.
Poate acum stau prost, dar daca o iau in fata Romaniei?
In plus, poate sunt negociatori mai buni.  Vezi Ungaria si viza pt SUA.

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View Postmasstransit, on 06 mai 2015 - 12:20, said:

Care ar fi avantajele?
Destul de mici acum
Cam asa, nu exista niciun avantaj major.
Mai bine ai incerca sa obtii cetatenia maghiara ( nu ai avut vreun bunic din zona Ardealului sau Banatului?) macar cu pasaport unguresc nu mai ai nevoie de viza pt SUA si Canada.

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View PostYukoto, on 06 mai 2015 - 12:37, said:

Daca poti avea dubla cetatenie ar fi ok sa o ai si pe aia, nu se stie niciodata, poate iti va fi de folos candva.
Cam asa gandesc si eu. Nu stiu cat de greu este, dar in cel mai rau caz, raman cu o experienta de viata si arborele genealogic.

View PostKarhu, on 06 mai 2015 - 12:57, said:

Cam asa, nu exista niciun avantaj major.
Mai bine ai incerca sa obtii cetatenia maghiara ( nu ai avut vreun bunic din zona Ardealului sau Banatului?) macar cu pasaport unguresc nu mai ai nevoie de viza pt SUA si Canada.


Nu am. Vezi raspunsul de mai sus, de acolo m-am inspirat. :)

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View Postmasstransit, on 06 mai 2015 - 12:56, said:

Ma intereseaza taxele, actuale si viitoare. Deschiderea catre administratie online. Sanatate si alte chestiuni asemanatoare.

Locuiesti & lucrezi acolo?
Daca nu, de ce-ti pui problema?
Daca da, platesti alte taxe decat un cetatean bulgar?

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View Postmasstransit, on 06 mai 2015 - 12:56, said:

In plus, poate sunt negociatori mai buni.  Vezi Ungaria si viza pt SUA.

Nu. Pasaportul romanesc e o idee mai bun decat cel bulgaresc in ce priveste tarile care nu necesita viza - diferenta e mica - doar vreo 2...

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In caz de ceva, ai de gand sa emigrezi in Bulgaria ( subiectul ariei ), sau doar cetatenia te intereseaza ?

Bulgarski televizija prestavna, lecanosti detza...

Edited by loock, 06 May 2015 - 13:17.


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View Postdani.user, on 06 mai 2015 - 13:11, said:

Locuiesti & lucrezi acolo?
Nu.


Caut sa-mi justific economic cheltuielile pe care le voi intalni. Atat.

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Nu cred ca Bulgaria acorda cetatenie pe astfel de criterii.

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Section I
Acquisition of Bulgarian Citizenship by Origin
Article 8
Any person whose one parent least is a Bulgarian citizen shall be a Bulgarian citizen by origin.
Article 9
Any person who has been fathered by a Bulgarian citizen or whose descent from a Bulgarian citizen has been established by way of a court ruling shall be a Bulgarian citizen by origin.
Section II
Acquisition of Bulgarian Citizenship by Place of Birth
Article 10
Any person who was born in the territory of the Republic of Bulgaria unless he/she has acquired foreign citizenship by origin shall be a Bulgarian citizen by place of birth.
Article 11
Any child found in the territory of the Republic of Bulgaria whose parents are unknown shall be deemed as born in this territory.
Section III
Acquisition of Bulgarian Citizenship through Naturalization
Article 12
Any person who is not a Bulgarian citizen may acquire Bulgarian citizenship if as of the date of filing an application for naturalization:
1. is a major;
2. was granted permission for permanent residence in the Republic of Bulgaria not less than five years ago;
3. has not been sentenced by a Bulgarian court for a premeditated crime of a general nature and has not been the subject of criminal proceedings for such a crime unless the person concerned has been rehabilitated;
4. has an income and occupation enabling him/her to support himself/herself in the Republic of Bulgaria;
5. has a command of the Bulgarian language subject to verification in accordance with a procedure established by an order of the Minister of Education and Culture, and
6. (New SG No. 41/2000) was released from his/her previous citizenship or will be released from his/her citizenship as of the moment of acquiring the Bulgarian citizenship.
Article 13
Any person who is not a Bulgarian citizen, satisfies the conditions under Article 12, sub-paragraphs 1, 3, 4, 5 and 6 and, not less than three years as of the date of filing the application for naturalization, was granted permission for permanent residence in the Republic of Bulgaria may acquire Bulgarian citizenship if he/she also meets one of the following requirements:
1. has been, for at least three years, and still is, legally married to a Bulgarian citizen;
2. (Repealed SG No. 41/2001);
3. was born in the Republic of Bulgaria;
4. was granted permission for permanent residence before he/she became of age;
5. (Repealed SG No. 41/2001).
Article 13a(New SG No. 41/2001)
Any person who was granted a refugee status not less than three years before the date of filing the application for naturalization may acquire Bulgarian citizenship if he/she meets the requirements under Article 12, sub-paragraphs 1, 3, 4 and 5.
Article 14(Amended SG No. 41/2001)
Any person without citizenship may acquire Bulgarian citizenship if he/she satisfies the conditions under Article 12, sub-paragraphs 1, 3, 4 and 5 and, not less than three years as of the date of filing an application for naturalization, was granted permission for permanent residence in the Republic of Bulgaria.
Article 15(Amended SG No. 41/2001)
Any person who is not a Bulgarian citizen may acquire Bulgarian citizenship through naturalization not subject to the provisions of Article 12, sub-paragraphs 2, 4, 5 and 6 if he/she meets one of the following requirements:
1. is of a Bulgarian origin ;
2. has been adopted by a Bulgarian citizen on terms of full adoption;
3. one of his/her parents is a Bulgarian citizen or has passed away as a Bulgarian citizen.
Article 16
Any person who is not a Bulgarian citizen may acquire Bulgarian citizenship not subject to the provisions of Article 12 if the Republic of Bulgaria has an interest in his/her naturalization or if the person concerned has made a special contribution to the Republic of Bulgaria in the social and economic spheres, in the field of science, technology, culture or sports.
Article 17
Children of up to 14 years of age shall acquire Bulgarian citizenship if their parents or the surviving parent acquire Bulgarian citizenship or whose only one parent does so in case the other parent is a Bulgarian citizen. Under the same conditions children of 14 to 18 years of age shall acquire Bulgarian citizenship if they wish so.
Article 18
(1) If children of up to 14 years of age, whose only one parent is a Bulgarian citizen, do not hold Bulgarian citizenship they may become Bulgarian citizens not subject to the provisions of Article 12 if both parents or the surviving parent agree to give their consent /to that end/ in writing. There shall be no requirement for the consent of any parent who has been deprived of parental rights. Children of 14 to 18 years of age may acquire Bulgarian citizenship under the same conditions if they wish so.
(2) (Amended SG No. 41/2001) Pursuant to the provisions of paragraph 1 any persons adopted by Bulgarian citizens on terms of full adoption may also acquire Bulgarian citizenship.
Article 19
The application of any person meeting the requirements for acquisition of Bulgarian citizenship through naturalization shall be refused if there are serious grounds to believe that due to his/her conduct he/she may constitute a threat to public order, public morals, public health or national security.


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View PostMizu, on 06 mai 2015 - 13:19, said:

Nu cred ca Bulgaria acorda cetatenie pe astfel de criterii.
Nu te contrazic. Necunoscand limba imi e foarte greu sa gasesc legile lor, iar de inteles nici atat.



Eu am facut o cercetare foarte sumara.
http://en.wikipedia....nationality_law


In plus am mai gasit articole despre macedoneni, albanezi, moldoveni, ucrainieni care doreau cetatenia bulgara pe motive etnice. Exemplu:
http://www.novinite....Debunking Myths


LE:Nu imi e clar ce scrie la articolul 15, paragraful 1? Din ce lege e? O sursa? Multumesc.

Edited by masstransit, 06 May 2015 - 13:32.


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Suna la ambasada.

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conteaza unde locuiesti si unde muncesti, nu cetatenia

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View Posteiffel, on 06 mai 2015 - 13:14, said:

Nu. Pasaportul romanesc e o idee mai bun decat cel bulgaresc in ce priveste tarile care nu necesita viza - diferenta e mica - doar vreo 2...
Am aruncat o scurta privire pe wiki si de acolo rezulta ca pasaportul bulgar e mai bun decat cel romanesc, asigura intrarea fara viza in 149 tari, pe cand al nostru doar in 148.

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View PostKarhu, on 06 mai 2015 - 14:06, said:

Am aruncat o scurta privire pe wiki si de acolo rezulta ca pasaportul bulgar e mai bun decat cel romanesc, asigura intrarea fara viza in 149 tari, pe cand al nostru doar in 148.

Daca nu-i cu suparare,nu ne spui si noua care-i tara aia magnifica iubitoare de bulgari?

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Pentru a beneficia de impozitele mai mici trebuie să fii rezident în Bulgaria. Poți fi rezident în Bulgaria și dacă ești cetățean român.

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