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The Upanishads speak of four levels of consciousness, which again show the progressive growth in divine-human relationship: waking consciousness, dreaming consciousness, deep sleep consciousness and the thuriya, which means the fourth. In waking consciousness one identifies with one’s physical body and lives to satisfy one’s physical desires and ambitions. In the dreaming consciousness one identifies with ideals and ideal persons taken from the past or memory and tries to follow and imitate them. Here a person might say I am a Hindu, Christian, and Muslim etc. In the deep sleep one is freed from the personal and collective ideals and ideal persons of the past (time) and enters into the realm of originality and creativity (eternity) and becomes an original and creative person and is able to say, “I am.” In the thuriya or the fourth state, one realizes one’s identity with God and says “I am Brahman.” The utterance, “I am Brahman,” may appear to be a statement of spiritual arrogance but in reality it is an experience of profound humility. In this state, only Brahman remains. To say that “I am God” does not mean that a human being becomes God but affirms that God is the only Reality. There are four or five mahavakyas connected to this ultimate experience: I am Brahman (ahambrahmasmi), you are that-Brahman (tatvamasi), Atman is Brahman (ayatmanbrahma), all this is Brahman (sarvametatbrahma) and Brahman is nondual (prajnanambrahma).
Brahman is described as SAT CIT ANANDA.
Ananda is translated in English as Bliss. The nearest example to the ananda aspect of Brahman is our state of deep sleep.
ioi omule...uite ca ai reusit ceva...
toti de pe forumu asta is de acord ca esti lovit de traznet, dus cu pluta sau lovit de tren...
suntem toti uniti in jurul acestei concluzii
io zic sa te tunzi,sa-ti lasi barba si eventual schimba-ti si creierul. sunt unele la mana a doua mai bune ca al tau.
toti de pe forumu asta is de acord ca esti lovit de traznet, dus cu pluta sau lovit de tren...
suntem toti uniti in jurul acestei concluzii
io zic sa te tunzi,sa-ti lasi barba si eventual schimba-ti si creierul. sunt unele la mana a doua mai bune ca al tau.
http://www.ajati.com
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A man knocked on the God's door. "Who's is there?" asked God from within. "It's me," said the man. "Go away then. There is no room for two," said God. The man departed and wandered in the arid desert until he realized his error. Returning to the door, he knocked once again. "Who's is there?" asked God as before. "You," answered the man. "Then come in," God replied.
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A man knocked on the God's door. "Who's is there?" asked God from within. "It's me," said the man. "Go away then. There is no room for two," said God. The man departed and wandered in the arid desert until he realized his error. Returning to the door, he knocked once again. "Who's is there?" asked God as before. "You," answered the man. "Then come in," God replied.
Cumpar creiere terminate, spalate, avariate. Oferim servici de reconditionare a lor. Oferim servicii de schimbare a creierelor. Oferim servicii de formatare, rescriere soft la creiere.
Sa mor io, imi deschid firma
, zippy99, fiindca esti grav si primul client, pentru tine o fac gratis....ce vrei tu. Daca vrei iti scriu un soft de om cu ratiune....vrei? O sa razi de mori de cei ca tine (inainte de operatie)
Sa mor io, imi deschid firma
, zippy99, fiindca esti grav si primul client, pentru tine o fac gratis....ce vrei tu. Daca vrei iti scriu un soft de om cu ratiune....vrei? O sa razi de mori de cei ca tine (inainte de operatie)
Si daca Zippy are dreptate?
@vata_pa_batz
Atunci inseamna noi ne-am insela. Tot ce e posibil. Dar ca sa ne gandim la varianta asta, ne trebuie dovezi....nu filozofii scoase din strafundul curului. Ca asa putem trai o viata cu "frica de D-zeu" ca daca si daca exista si ne pune la frigare in iad. O teama mai stupida ca asta chiar nu imi vine in minte.
Atunci inseamna noi ne-am insela. Tot ce e posibil. Dar ca sa ne gandim la varianta asta, ne trebuie dovezi....nu filozofii scoase din strafundul curului. Ca asa putem trai o viata cu "frica de D-zeu" ca daca si daca exista si ne pune la frigare in iad. O teama mai stupida ca asta chiar nu imi vine in minte.
Dovezi sint destule trebuie doar sa le cauti.. numai ca nu le vei gasi intr-un discurs intelectual steril..
Incepe cu Ramana Maharshi..
Poti studia vechile Upanisade, lucrarile lui Adi Shankaracharya, Gaudapada, Dattatreya, etc..
http://www.freeglossary.com/Advaita
http://www.sacred-texts.com/index.htm
Incepe cu Ramana Maharshi..
Poti studia vechile Upanisade, lucrarile lui Adi Shankaracharya, Gaudapada, Dattatreya, etc..
http://www.freeglossary.com/Advaita
http://www.sacred-texts.com/index.htm
zippy, zippy.....zippy
Well boy, am zis dovezi...stii ce inseamna aia o dovada? Nu vreau teorii. Daca as avea inclinatii spre asa ceva, si eu as putea face. Uita-te la tine cat poti abera. Ai citit si tu ceva, mintea slaba a ta a pus botu la astea, si acuma crezi ca ai descoperit....nimicul.
Ar trebui sa iti dea de gandit si de unde vin teoriile si lucrarile care ni le prezinti aici. De la niste popoare vechi, inapoiate rau, care venereaza te si miri ce, care stau o viata si o traiesc cat se poate de umil, IN SPERANTA ca viata urmatoare va fi mai buna......sa fim seriosi. Toate teoriile astea nu au logica, dar au puterea de a speria prostimea. Asta e scopul oricarei religii, secte, etc. Conducerea prostimii pe anumite cai bazandu-se pe anumite povesti, teorii, bau-bau-uri
Well boy, am zis dovezi...stii ce inseamna aia o dovada? Nu vreau teorii. Daca as avea inclinatii spre asa ceva, si eu as putea face. Uita-te la tine cat poti abera. Ai citit si tu ceva, mintea slaba a ta a pus botu la astea, si acuma crezi ca ai descoperit....nimicul.
Ar trebui sa iti dea de gandit si de unde vin teoriile si lucrarile care ni le prezinti aici. De la niste popoare vechi, inapoiate rau, care venereaza te si miri ce, care stau o viata si o traiesc cat se poate de umil, IN SPERANTA ca viata urmatoare va fi mai buna......sa fim seriosi. Toate teoriile astea nu au logica, dar au puterea de a speria prostimea. Asta e scopul oricarei religii, secte, etc. Conducerea prostimii pe anumite cai bazandu-se pe anumite povesti, teorii, bau-bau-uri
http://www.philo.demon.co.uk/
http://www.philo.demon.co.uk/Darshana.htm
"Indian philosophy has an aim: liberation, freedom from deluded views, mental illusions and delusions, confused ideal, fuddled thinking. It is a deep spiritual therapy."
Geeeezz...chiar nu va e bine in pielea voastra ?????.....sa mor io, mie rusine ca is om, ca am semeni asa prosti, oi, orbi, indiferent de culoarea pielii
Geeeezz...chiar nu va e bine in pielea voastra ?????.....sa mor io, mie rusine ca is om, ca am semeni asa prosti, oi, orbi, indiferent de culoarea pielii
QUOTE(driverx @ Nov 3 2004, 16:42)
zippy, zippy.....zippy
Well boy, am zis dovezi...stii ce inseamna aia o dovada? Nu vreau teorii. Daca as avea inclinatii spre asa ceva, si eu as putea face. Uita-te la tine cat poti abera. Ai citit si tu ceva, mintea slaba a ta a pus botu la astea, si acuma crezi ca ai descoperit....nimicul.
Ar trebui sa iti dea de gandit si de unde vin teoriile si lucrarile care ni le prezinti aici. De la niste popoare vechi, inapoiate rau, care venereaza te si miri ce, care stau o viata si o traiesc cat se poate de umil, IN SPERANTA ca viata urmatoare va fi mai buna......sa fim seriosi. Toate teoriile astea nu au logica, dar au puterea de a speria prostimea. Asta e scopul oricarei religii, secte, etc. Conducerea prostimii pe anumite cai bazandu-se pe anumite povesti, teorii, bau-bau-uri
Well boy, am zis dovezi...stii ce inseamna aia o dovada? Nu vreau teorii. Daca as avea inclinatii spre asa ceva, si eu as putea face. Uita-te la tine cat poti abera. Ai citit si tu ceva, mintea slaba a ta a pus botu la astea, si acuma crezi ca ai descoperit....nimicul.
Ar trebui sa iti dea de gandit si de unde vin teoriile si lucrarile care ni le prezinti aici. De la niste popoare vechi, inapoiate rau, care venereaza te si miri ce, care stau o viata si o traiesc cat se poate de umil, IN SPERANTA ca viata urmatoare va fi mai buna......sa fim seriosi. Toate teoriile astea nu au logica, dar au puterea de a speria prostimea. Asta e scopul oricarei religii, secte, etc. Conducerea prostimii pe anumite cai bazandu-se pe anumite povesti, teorii, bau-bau-uri
Pai somnul adinc nu e o dovada, nu l-ai ,,experimentat" niciodata?
Ai meditat? In meditatie se ,,vede" clar diferenta, esti martorul propriilor ginduri care vin si pleaca. Ce dovada mai clara vrei? Poti incerca sa meditezi, daca ajungi sa te relaxezi asa de bine incit sa nu-ti mai simti corpul atunci diferenta va fi asa de clara incit ,,te va lasa mut" de mirare, de miracol!
Incearca numai! Nu da cu piciorul unei sanse..
Zippy, sa o luam incetisor...
ce insemna "realitatea ultima" in acceptiunea ta?
ce insemna "realitatea ultima" in acceptiunea ta?
Daca cauti definitii ia un dictionar sau cauta pe Internet.
Daca nu, incearca sa intelegi ca nu este o stare. asta spune totul sau nimic depinde cum privesti lucrurile..
Daca nu, incearca sa intelegi ca nu este o stare. asta spune totul sau nimic depinde cum privesti lucrurile..
Ai meditat? In meditatie se ,,vede" clar diferenta, esti martorul propriilor ginduri care vin si pleaca.
Da, atunci se vede clar furtuna de idei buna si proaste care circula prin creieri. Aia nu inaseamna ca is adevarate si ca e ceva nemaipomenit in spatele acestei realitati clare pe care tu o negi.
Da, atunci se vede clar furtuna de idei buna si proaste care circula prin creieri. Aia nu inaseamna ca is adevarate si ca e ceva nemaipomenit in spatele acestei realitati clare pe care tu o negi.
Daca zici ca ai meditat oare n-ai observat un martor care observa gindurile care vin si pleaca.. Fii sincer..
Mah, n-am ce observa. E furtuna de informatie din creier.
Am fost operat acu 2 luni...inainte sa ma trezesc am vazut acel tunel alb de care vorbesc toti fraierii care au fost in moarte clinica. Eu n-am avut nici pe dracu. Dar dupa judecatile tale inguste, as fi mers la nenea Petru. Nu a fost nimic altceva, decat o imagine generata de creier.
Prostestete in continuare cu toate tampeniile. Be my guest....
Am fost operat acu 2 luni...inainte sa ma trezesc am vazut acel tunel alb de care vorbesc toti fraierii care au fost in moarte clinica. Eu n-am avut nici pe dracu. Dar dupa judecatile tale inguste, as fi mers la nenea Petru. Nu a fost nimic altceva, decat o imagine generata de creier.
Prostestete in continuare cu toate tampeniile. Be my guest....
............. http://www.nonduality.com/list.htm
Geez, dar numai gunoaie de saituri dai? Numai cand te uiti la ele deja ar trebui sa iti pui niste intrebari....sau la voi astia absolutisti nu conteaza bunu gust?
Pai sint niste forumuri, poate te vei mai lamuri in privinta non-dualismului.
Macar incearca..
Macar incearca..
Degeaba iti explic....alea is saituri ca sa iti ia ochii si mintea totodata cu ea.....ciudate rau de tot
Uite, sa nu imi bat joc de tine, daca mie imi scrii aceste saituri...nu te obosi...ca nu le voi citi nici de curiozitate sa vad ce e in capu ala infect a tau.....atata polologhie in ele de mori si nu mai apuci sa iti plangi de mila ca poate vei fi un porc sau o vaca in viata urmatoare....
Uite, sa nu imi bat joc de tine, daca mie imi scrii aceste saituri...nu te obosi...ca nu le voi citi nici de curiozitate sa vad ce e in capu ala infect a tau.....atata polologhie in ele de mori si nu mai apuci sa iti plangi de mila ca poate vei fi un porc sau o vaca in viata urmatoare....
Diferenta intre noi este poate ca nu dau asa de repede verdicte fara sa analizez ceva.. Uita-te la cele despre non-dualism, reincarnarea nu exista.. sau pe limbajul tau daca cumva iti pui intrebarea daca in viata urmatoare (care o fi aia?) vei fi un porc sau altceva, eu iti spun ca intrebarea ta este falsa.
Adevarul stii care e? Ca nici nu m-ati intrebat chestii mai subtile.. Poate voit am lasat pete albe.. Vroiam o discutie..
Pentru a atinge ,,starea fara stare" sau Realitatea Ultima se poate merge pe doua cai: cea a pasarii sau cea a furnicii. Cea a pasarii este intelegerea si este cea mai scurta, a doua este meditatia si e una foarte lunga..
Nu degeaba lui Nisargadatta i-au trebuit 3 ani, lui Sri Ranjit Maharaj vreo 2, lui Wayne Liquorman tot ceva de genul asta ca sa nu mai spun de altii..
Adevarul stii care e? Ca nici nu m-ati intrebat chestii mai subtile.. Poate voit am lasat pete albe.. Vroiam o discutie..
Pentru a atinge ,,starea fara stare" sau Realitatea Ultima se poate merge pe doua cai: cea a pasarii sau cea a furnicii. Cea a pasarii este intelegerea si este cea mai scurta, a doua este meditatia si e una foarte lunga..
Nu degeaba lui Nisargadatta i-au trebuit 3 ani, lui Sri Ranjit Maharaj vreo 2, lui Wayne Liquorman tot ceva de genul asta ca sa nu mai spun de altii..
starea fara stare o au pacientii de la spitalul 9. adica aia cred ei ca au, diagnosticul e shizofrenie
Nu s-ar spune ca sufar de asa ceva.. sa ma duc la un consult la Spitalul 9?
Moș Otti: LET IT BE!
Moș Otti: LET IT BE!
eu cred ca esti un caz fascinant. sint sigur ca si colegiul medicilor ar avea aceeasi parere
In curand... autoevolution.ro
Teste, stiri, ghiduri, jurnale, forum si multe altele!
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